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msdoolittle
True Blue Farmgirl

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Amanda
Jacksonville Texas

Posted - Dec 05 2011 :  08:18:47 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great subject. In reply to the "If it all falls down, we're coming to your house" quote, my husband and I have had a serious conversation about this. Number One is that you have to be somewhat guarded when it comes to telling people what you have. Unfortunately, there are those who, in the event of a serious disaster, will come and loot your stuff! (or even worse....) Anyway, and Number Two, our family comes first...we couldn't support a huge group of people, and I'm not going to plan for that. In the event that we took on a few more families (VERY close friends), they would have to definitely contribute to the household and WORK. :0) Yes, all of that planned out over a TexMex lunch one day, lol. Even though we do joke about it, we also know that a disaster is never outside of the realm of possibility.

Something else for you ladies to consider: We have been collecting old manual farm implements as well as manual kitchen/food-prep devices (grinders, mixers, etc). We also have many washboards and things that would be invaluable for daily tasks should we not have electricity for any extended period.

:0)

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Wildcrafter
True Blue Farmgirl

334 Posts

Suzanne
Burlington WA
USA

Posted - Dec 06 2011 :  07:38:11 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Check this out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD1T61oTrR8&feature=share&fb_source=message
This was just passed. The govt can now arrest anyone who has guns, ammo, more than 7 days of food stocked in their home. Our world has just gotten very interesting.
I'm not sure why stocking up silver and gold is a good idea. I took the Dave Ramsey Financial Peace U 13 week course and one of the many things he said that stuck with me is that if the world goes to heck in a handbasket, people aren't going to be looking for silver and gold, they're going to be looking for fuel, food and medicine.

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FarmDream
True Blue Farmgirl

1085 Posts

Julie
TX
USA

Posted - Dec 06 2011 :  7:45:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had read about that legislation and knew it passed the senate but I didn't know if it had passed the House yet. I understand Dave Ramsey's feelings about gold and silver. I just ponder questions like "why is there a huge business in buying up people's gold now?""what if it isn't a collapse but a long recession or depression?" In a case like that gold and silver are tangible and will have value. I have a small amount of actual silver so if the stock market tanked or the dollar fell dramatically, that actual silver is still worth something. It's only recommended to have 5-15% of what you save in metals. Don't get me wrong, I like Dave Ramsey and we follow his steps. I like to get my advice on prepping from people who are doing it or from information about those who have lived through a time when prepping was needed. Examples of Zimbabwe, Russia, and Argentina are great examples of economic collapse from the year 2000. We don't hear about those, but through interviews and reading, gold was still a valuable asset to have. Something else I learned was that in those instances people still went to work. They just worked for a lot less. So it isn't necessarily one day everything is fine and the next there's no electricity and complete lawlessness. Life did go on, though it was a lot more dangerous.

Amanda- thanks for mentioning things like washboards. I looked at some at the store today. Good thing to keep in mind.

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msdoolittle
True Blue Farmgirl

807 Posts

Amanda
Jacksonville Texas

Posted - Dec 07 2011 :  06:28:27 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's really strange when you think about money. After all, it is simply something that you barter for something else. Value is (especially now) pretty much a perceived thing. Still, the majority still assign value to precious metals, so I could see how they may come in handy in a collapse.

We don't keep gold/silver (as my husband says, "You can't eat gold."), and hopefully we'll never have to go through a situation where we'd need to use it. I DO assign top priority, though, to learning skills which would benefit us in the event that we didn't have electricity or clean water at our taps. Of course, we also grow a lot of our own food and we have lots of chickens. We already have one woodstove for heat but I want to add 2 more to our house eventually.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with planning ahead!!! I am blessed to live in a part of the country with many natural resources (woods, game, ponds/lakes). I want to become Lady Survivalist :0)

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Dusky Beauty
True Blue Farmgirl

1108 Posts

Jen
Tonopah AZ
USA

Posted - Dec 07 2011 :  5:52:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I shared it on facebook. Canada looks better and better all the time!! This bill is reminding me of legislation the Nazi party passed governing the Jews in Germany prior to the holocaust.

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Room To Grow
True Blue Farmgirl

921 Posts

Deborah
Kingston Georgia
USA

Posted - Dec 08 2011 :  2:29:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was reading BWH mag and this edition is great. They told if we have an EMP event that the only cars that will survive is ones made 1970 and younger. Also electronics would have to be 1969 and younger...But if you take anything that you dont want to get hit by an EMP put it in a metal filing cabinet or safe and it will be safe.
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Lindsay C
True Blue Farmgirl

109 Posts

Lindsay
Rogersville AL
USA

Posted - Dec 12 2011 :  06:39:19 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We are filling any canning jars that we are not using right now with water. We have an electric well pump, so when we lose power, having water is super important. Most importantly, we're saving up to buy a manual pump for the well, just in case.

Lindsay
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FarmDream
True Blue Farmgirl

1085 Posts

Julie
TX
USA

Posted - Dec 12 2011 :  5:27:15 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The latest thing I have found are some hand crank flashlights for $5 at Academy. Never needs batteries. I put one in my car so if I'm stranded at night I'll always have a light. If you want something even fancier there are hand crank flashlight/shortwave radio sets on the internet. Their cost is around $50. If you are watching metal prices there is a free app by Kitco. They also have a web site.

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N@n
True Blue Farmgirl

222 Posts


Hackett Arkansas
USA

Posted - Dec 13 2011 :  03:44:28 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I read somewhere that it might be a good idea to have enough precious metal of some kind to be able to cover your property taxes for a while. That seems like good advise to me. Although I am not sure how you would know you had enough precious metals since that market fluctuates. Gonna have to think about looking into getting something to cover the tax man's bill if ever have a genuine collapse of the dollar.

keep searchin'-it's out there somewhere.
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batznthebelfry
True Blue Farmgirl

1195 Posts

Michele
Athol Ma
USA

Posted - Dec 16 2011 :  3:46:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have you all seen this in the news lately that if you have more than 7 days of food/ect you can be considered a terrorist in the eyes of the gov't? this really gets to me because one all those living off the grid do this as well as I do for the reason of economy. I can buy cheaper 50 lbs of oats/flour/sugar at my Co-op than in the grocery store. What I want to know is this big business getting in the way...if we don't need them everyday for food are they afraid they will lose so much money that they had the gov't step in to help stop this?...This really concerns me because now there is a Bill out there to detain americans without trial/lawyer ect if concerned to be a danger to America in any way....What is happening here? We can't have raw milk in some areas without it being a jailable crime, can't feed our families organic foods without it offending someone somewhere & now this...When did we get to the point that our lives are so controled by others that we can't do what we feel is best...Wasn't this the country labeled "land of the Free?" Normally I don't get all worked up over these things but it seems in the last few years with the downfall of America things have gotten even more out of control...its bad enough so many are out of jobs, losing homes, which we did back in 2009 to foreclosure, but to have a gov't step in & say that my months/year supply of food items can be labeled that I might be a terrorist is unreal....Will farmers who raise crops/acreas of food or have many animals also eventually fall under this idea so that someone can yank their farms away from them...Yes I know it sounds crazy but I sure see things like this happening if something isn't changed & changed real soon....Michele'

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naturemaiden
True Blue Farmgirl

1713 Posts

Connie - Farmgirl #673
Cutchogue NY
USA

Posted - Dec 16 2011 :  5:01:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Michele, my husband and I were JUST discussing this. WHAT is happening to this country? It is scary. I plan on buying some things in bulk for the sake of saving money, being prepared for a storm, losing a job etc. Now we have to worry about that? I'm at a loss for words.

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Room To Grow
True Blue Farmgirl

921 Posts

Deborah
Kingston Georgia
USA

Posted - Dec 23 2011 :  4:40:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was at the store the other day and there were some can veggies on sale. I wanted to get a couple of cases. But I saw that most of them had pop top lids...You cant keep them to long because the seal will become loose. I think that this is the way that they will try to stop us from keeping cans of food. Buy as much of the real cans as you can before they all have pop top lids.
Deborah

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FarmDream
True Blue Farmgirl

1085 Posts

Julie
TX
USA

Posted - Dec 27 2011 :  2:50:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here's a neat thing to do with unsuspecting friends. We just booked a couple campsites for the spring with water and electric hookups. We have invited two girls with no camping experience and some others with experience. The inexperienced ones are eager to learn some camping skills but don't realize they will be learning some life skills. We'll have firestarting, cooking, bathing, horse riding, hiking, plant identification, kayaking, and astronomy. The water and electric hookups will help the newbies not feel completely cut off and remote.

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naturemaiden
True Blue Farmgirl

1713 Posts

Connie - Farmgirl #673
Cutchogue NY
USA

Posted - Dec 28 2011 :  01:09:39 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Julie I like that idea
Connie

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Room To Grow
True Blue Farmgirl

921 Posts

Deborah
Kingston Georgia
USA

Posted - Dec 29 2011 :  06:29:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I heard on TV the other day that now the places that buy your gold and silver are buying diamonds. My DH was a jeweler and he said when they start buying diamonds then something is really about to happen. They dont want us to have to much to barter with which can be used instead of paper money and coins that will be worthless. We too have a good bit of gemstones. My husband had them when he was a jeweler. So maybe that will be our barter for a while if things go belly-up.
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