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batznthebelfry
True Blue Farmgirl

1195 Posts

Michele
Athol Ma
USA

Posted - Jan 21 2012 :  9:34:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thank you for the info Paula :)...the more I get into this the madder I get over what we all assume is a natural right...I mean how natural is it to shove food into our mouth but now I see its not the idea situation I grew up thinking it was.....& too think that the situation never stays the same...each time a new person comes in to head the FDA ect the rules change as to what they see the info says....its so confusing & the wording can be taken anyway a person wants to it to be on what we can't eat or can eat......I love how Joel states that our fore fathers didn't add any of this because they assumed we would always have fresh meats/vegs/fruits on the farms so why worry about decades/centuries later someone getting a big head & deciding we were too stupid to think for ourselves.
I mean really, when processed cheese came in we were in trouble not to mention 'the' so called foods...but i still can't seem to get my head around how someone who has access to caviar & thinks its a wonderful food thinks farm grown beef is a killer & we have to be stopped.....just sayin.....Michele'

Chickens rule!
The Old Batz Farm
Hen #2622
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msdoolittle
True Blue Farmgirl

807 Posts

Amanda
Jacksonville Texas

Posted - Jan 22 2012 :  8:48:46 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I haven't read it yet, but I would like to.

the entire problem with this country is that everyone has sold out on convenience. I was a child of the 80s, and my diet was almost all processed (though my mother did cook). We were not taught that we could make bread, or cheese, or any of those things!

The further we get from the source of our food, the worse we all are. We have to keep on standing up and fighting for what we KNOW is right.

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countrymommy85
True Blue Farmgirl

794 Posts

Krystle
Marinette WI
USA

Posted - Mar 05 2012 :  9:29:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I FINALLY got the book from inter-library loan because there were quite a few holds on it before mine. Well I just finished reading it and what a great read!!! I loved it!!! I probably wouldn't have heard about it for a while so I'm glad you posted it so I could get it when I did :)

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batznthebelfry
True Blue Farmgirl

1195 Posts

Michele
Athol Ma
USA

Posted - Mar 06 2012 :  2:22:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So happy you were able to get the book Krystle, its a head bender thats for sure but it sure makes you think about all the things you just thought were normal or right & to see that they weren't/aren't & that so few have so much control over our lives....I love how he wrote the book so its not so technique that you get lost in the pages with a headache & he uses humor throoughout...I set mine down for a bit & need to get back to it again.......Michele'

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Silverweed
Farmgirl in Training

25 Posts

Alexis
Maine
USA

Posted - May 01 2012 :  5:16:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi ladies:
along those lines is the book by Barbara Kingsolver. Animal, Vegetable, Mineral. She documents her families decision to leave New Mexico and return to the Southeast US to a farm for 1 year. She provides lots of information about big pharma, federal government and legal decisions that have shaped our lives. We have the Joel S books as well.

Silverweed-Alexis...Farmgirl#4034

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batznthebelfry
True Blue Farmgirl

1195 Posts

Michele
Athol Ma
USA

Posted - May 02 2012 :  03:09:17 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
oh will have to check that book out Alexis...I love reading what other people are doing to make life more their own......I have been reading alot about what people are doing to prepare for the end of America as they see it...I find a lot of problems with some of their thoughts...especially about guns & bullets...they think they can hoard enough to save them from home invasions/evil wanderers ect....sort of 'us against them' ideas....I understand it but also know eventually no matter how much you store you will eventually run out & then what?...No matter what you store or collect it will never be enough for your family, children, grand children & so on...I see a lot of fear type writings that just add to everyones fear instead of trying to tell you that you can make it with some thought to what is next to come...If we lose electricity, telephone, gas & become a 3rd world country again then we will adjust after the first shock of it.....some will have a harder time while others will go on as they do & hopefully help those who are in their area figure out ways to make it on what they have or have access to......this whole 'us against them' concept is surely to be a down fall in the mist of a disaster I think.....
This total gov't control concept if happens we will learn how to care for ourselves or leave the country.....I guess what I am saying is I am glad that those that write here are not like some of the other sites I have seen....instead of putting fear in to everyone...here we try to show that we are strong women who will do what we need & to show how to help others if & when we can....Fear is such a dangerous feeling & can create so much more damage than the actual event that is happening...thank goodness I am surrounded by farmgirls/hens who have a strong head on their shoulders....Michele'

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rphelps4
True Blue Farmgirl

519 Posts

roxanna
westport indiana
USA

Posted - May 02 2012 :  06:35:14 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That is all so crazy, mt kids were raised home grown everything, we used to have to take turns on who got the creme on top of the raw milk we drank. I never had to worry about what was going into my kids bodies because I knew where it came from. Roxanna
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Cherime
True Blue Farmgirl

1094 Posts

Cherime
Wasilla Alaska
USA

Posted - May 02 2012 :  09:06:36 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When I was a kid there was a dairy in Lompoc CA where we lived for a while and I loved going there and getting fresh milk right out of that big vat. The cream was so thick just taking it home in the big gallon jars began bringing the butter up. Dad was a farm kid and when we got home he would make butter for us by just shaking that cream in a jar.
All my life I have been cultivating the skills needed to get by without so much dross in my life. It is great to be able to can veggies. I can stuff to get myself through the winter from our local U Pick farm. But I also dry stuff as well then freeze it. keeps a lot longer that way.

CMF
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naturemaiden
True Blue Farmgirl

1713 Posts

Connie - Farmgirl #673
Cutchogue NY
USA

Posted - May 09 2012 :  03:29:32 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i just bought this book from amazon,and cant believe this has been going on! i think that it is ridiculous that what use to be a way of life can now be illegal. i can understand the fda wanting food safety, but this has gone way too far. i'd buy from a farm instead of a supermarket anyday. i get so angry when i am in the supermarket and i see the prices, and not knowing what kind of chemicals/additives are in my food. i grow as much produce as i can in my yard, and i will tell you, the carrots in the supermarket for example are nothing compared to one you grow yourself.
connie

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countrymommy85
True Blue Farmgirl

794 Posts

Krystle
Marinette WI
USA

Posted - May 09 2012 :  06:18:07 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This makes the whole fight for kids wanting to work on farms a lot more relevant. I didn't know stuff like that was going on at all! I worked on a farm during my high school years and by far that was my most favorite job in the world!

Mothers are those wonderful people who can get up in the morning before the smell of coffee. ~Author Unknown

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JojoNH
True Blue Farmgirl

1679 Posts

Joanna
Clarksville New Hampshire
USA

Posted - May 12 2012 :  04:45:35 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So happy I am not alone feeling this way! Although I have made changes to stop being dependent on the big stores. . I discovered that if I started doing things the "old way" which includes dehydrating food along with canning, preserving in oil etc. We can each make a dent in the dependency for many items.

On PBS a few years back, they featured a gentleman that lived in the wilds of Alaska. He didn't need a thing from the big stores, he bartered for some luxuries like seasonings, flour, salt. . however, he didn't "need" them. It was fascinating to watch how he built his home, created hinges from wood for his door, how he built a natural refrigerator, gathered his food and so on. Learned soooo much from watching it. ( it's available for purchase as a dvd at pbs)

I firmly believe if all of us start with just one item that we stop purchasing and replace it with a locally grown version ( whether we grow it or a local farmer does) we can effectively make a big change for the better.

Joanna #566

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oregonatural
True Blue Farmgirl

152 Posts

Susan
Sprague River OR
USA

Posted - May 12 2012 :  05:52:08 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Industrial Revolution (1700-1900) that poured people into cities has been a disaster for our diets historically. Maybe it's just a 200 year experiment that is now collapsing cause all that so-called convenience has given us cancer, heart-disease, obesity and diabetes. Clearly, the idea of factory farming is not at all sustainable and more and more people are seeing the value of Local, Organic, and home-grown as the ONLY sustainable alternative. The tide is turning. It is. Have faith. WE are the government. WE can change this. Fight the good fight sisters. What we purchase, grow, and cook, every day, every meal, is a political statement. It starts at your table. Changing how we see our food production can change the world.

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Madelena
True Blue Farmgirl

402 Posts

Mary
Central TX
USA

Posted - Jun 02 2012 :  10:46:51 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
AMEN...to all of this.

I was thinking.. Unions came into existence to protect workers from greedy companies from taking advantage of them (financially and health wise). Most of the regulations they fought for are now laws.

But now.. who is protecting the people from the Government-Business Megalopoly??? The Dems and Reps can rail all they want about wanting less government or tighter controls on businesses.. The bottom line seems to be that the goverment just wants more control and the companies are willing accomplices that benefit from the rules and regulations the Congress pass and enforce.

I'm starting to think that "WE THE PEOPLE" need a union to protect us from the "Protectors".. darn, sounds like a good plot for a science-fiction / horror movie. Maybe not so funny after all.

I imagine all our names are now being gathered on someone's computer.. What a shame.. we Farmgirls just want to get back to the land (even if it is only a potted tomato on our patios) and live simply, live healthier lives (reduce health care costs !), and repect and protect Mother Earth.

So, what's a farm girl to do???
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Jeanna
True Blue Farmgirl

241 Posts

Jeanna
Franklin NC
USA

Posted - Jun 02 2012 :  2:36:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Joel Salatin is a great farmer and speaker. I have read Folks, this ain't normal and loved it and have watched Fresh the movie, which he is in a lot. I would love to read Everything I Want To Do Is Illegal. I know what you are saying about us voting with our dollars. I quit buying anything from Smithfield after I found out about some of there practices involving their workforce. Thanks for reminding me about reading some more of his books.

Jeanna
Farmgirl Sister #41

Go confidently in the direction of your dreams. Live the life you have imagined.
Henry David Thoreau
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Cherime
True Blue Farmgirl

1094 Posts

Cherime
Wasilla Alaska
USA

Posted - Jun 03 2012 :  07:01:19 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mary, I agree. It seems that all have sold out to big business, Rep and Demo no difference, they need big business's money to get elected so all they promise us is a bunch of hooey to get elected so they can keep their promises to those who paid for their campaign.

CMF
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