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Across the Fence:  Recreational Marijuana in Colorado-What next?  |
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crittergranny
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Laura
Lindrith
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 Posted - Nov 09 2012 : 11:28:58 AM
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No Phyllis, no offense. So many people think New Mexico is another country. We find it amusing. I understand you were just joking and you do know we are a state. I'm sorry if I sounded like I was offended.
Laura
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pinokeeo
True Blue Farmgirl
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Phyllis
Oregon
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Posted - Nov 09 2012 : 2:44:34 PM
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Thanks. It wasn't a joke, it's what somebody told me. I was in Arizona visiting with relatives. We went to The Goldfield Mine and there was somebody smoking pot, somewhere on the train. These folks had come down from New Mexico to visit and were on the train. The fellow made the comment to his traveling companion, and to me.
And yes, I do know that New Mexico is a state. I've been there as a visitor several times. Beautiful country and lovely people.
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Annab
True Blue Farmgirl
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Anna
Seagrove
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Posted - Nov 09 2012 : 4:38:56 PM
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| However- Texas IS its own country you know...ha ha |
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tammyc
True Blue Farmgirl
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Tammy
Danville
California
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Posted - Nov 09 2012 : 5:11:14 PM
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So I want to make sure I have this right....everyone in California is a liberal, pothead, millionaire and everyone in Colorado is a liberal pothead who has relocated from the devil state of California....just wanted to make sure! I own a home in California and am thinking of invading the beautiful state of Colorado....Peace out!
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Blessed in Colorado
True Blue Farmgirl
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Debbie L.
Oregon
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tammyc
True Blue Farmgirl
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Tammy
Danville
California
USA
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Posted - Nov 09 2012 : 5:17:29 PM
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Woo Hoo.....I love Colorado....it "rocks"! I will be your Colorado neighbor anytime!
Big Hugs, Tammy
"Be who you are and say what you like because the people who mind don't matter and the people who matter don't mind" - Dr. Seuss |
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Annab
True Blue Farmgirl
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Anna
Seagrove
NC
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Posted - Nov 10 2012 : 03:52:47 AM
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I miss the Southwest...........the dry heat, the lavender farms I found out about WAAAAY too late, the Napa and Sonoma Valleys, and of course, all the nuts and froots that make it so diverse too.
Have yet to make it North but that's on the bucket list. I want to take the hubs to see the giant Sequoias and of course to San Fran to sample REAL sour dough bread. I hear it's the best.
Have actually been to Colorado too- buzzed through Aspen. Way too expensive and I'm not into skiing but it's a beautiful state |
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Fiddlehead Farm
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Diane
Waupaca
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USA
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Posted - Nov 10 2012 : 05:08:03 AM
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I believe that Marijuana is the lesser of two evils. Alcohol was illegal during prohibition and look at all the criminals it made. I think if Marijuana was legal there wouldn't be so many people in jail and a lot less drug related crime. It would also make a new crop for farmers. I don't really think it would add that much to the DUI related accidents. I just wish our society would have more personal responsibility for their health and their actions related to alcohol/drugs. What I am really worried about is the heroine and meth being used, especially in young people. I personally don't drink alcohol or smoke marijuana but I have in the past and again I think marijuana is the lesser of the two for making a person impaired or addicted.
A further note: Couldn't you just imagine the farmer's markets if marijuana was legalized? You can get some fresh tomatoes, artisan cheese and an ounce of organic weed! LOL
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Annab
True Blue Farmgirl
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Anna
Seagrove
NC
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Posted - Nov 10 2012 : 09:58:16 AM
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Weed is not addictive (unlike alcohol and tobacco)- it is self regulating- although there are some who do possess the gene to overindulge in everything to excess. And contrary to popular belief- you cannot over dose and die from too much of it. You may feel like you want to, but you won't
And I also agree, it needs to be decriminalized. There are far too many people out there taking up jail space for lesser offenses |
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sherrye
True Blue Farmgirl
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sherry
bend in the high desert
oregon
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Posted - Nov 12 2012 : 07:26:05 AM
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as some of you know i am a sick farmgirl. due to my hereditary co-pro porphyria with secondary varigate porphyria and chronic iron deficient anemia i need it. i am in oregon. i am a legal medical patient. since my liver is missing important enzymes i live everyday in pain. sick stomach and muscle and joint pain are normal for me. if i did not have this medicine i would wither away. i do not smoke it. i use a vaporizer and i make a cream for painful joints. my opinion is that those of us who cannot use pills that go through the liver this goes through the lung. i have fentinal (SP) morphine whatever i need to cope. so for me this is a good law. for me i cannot overuse this either or i would get sick from it. so moderation is key. i go to the chemo room often for infusions of iron to keep me alive and with blood. many of the folks i meet use this during treatments. they are allowed any drugs needed to cope with cancer. pot helps them to cope. as with anything in life moderation is vital. there will always be abusers to laws. for those of us that are sick and or dying pot is a good choice. JMHO happy days to you sherrye so i never thought i would admit this on line BUT folks need to know Jehovah made this plant. it helps a lot of people.
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crittergranny
True Blue Farmgirl
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Laura
Lindrith
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Posted - Nov 12 2012 : 07:34:49 AM
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Hugs Sherry...I am glad that you are finding things to help you. Putting it in a vaporizer is a good idea. I would think that would be more healthy for your lungs. I will send up a prayer for your healing.
Laura
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Blessed in Colorado
True Blue Farmgirl
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Debbie L.
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crittergranny
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Laura
Lindrith
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Posted - Nov 12 2012 : 07:51:01 AM
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I think whether pot is addictive or not is a matter of what a person calls addictive. It does not give physical withdrawals like morphine or heroin but it does cause psychological dependency. People that become dependent on it are mostly people who start when they are young. If they don't provide some sort of regulation then it will be available to children. Who will become hooked, and will continue to smoke it all the way through their childbearing years, forcing their children to endure it in the womb, also causing premature and low birth weight babies, dopey moms that can't remember anything, are tired and lazy, and associate with druggies of all sorts around their children. Pot is medicinal yes, and it should be available to people that need it. But other than that it serves NO purpose and cripples lives and families. The higher the IQ the more pot damages the brain. That is a proven fact.
Laura
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sherrye
True Blue Farmgirl
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sherry
bend in the high desert
oregon
USA
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Posted - Nov 12 2012 : 08:05:21 AM
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i have been looking at wash. law. i am not knowledgeable in law, but the state said it would be regulating how this law works. NO ONE under 18 and you cannot just grow it in your yard. wash. says it will take over a year to write the regulations. we will always have those who are addictive. be it alcohol, cigs. or pot or prescription drugs. i do agree that along with alcohol etc. when abused ruins lives and families. so hopefully the laws will address children families etc.
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SandraM
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Sandra
Coldwater
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Posted - Nov 12 2012 : 3:26:07 PM
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I would be dissapointed as well.
Michigan has it for medicinal use..but it is a joke because anyone can get it for anything.
Just one more thing to get a stamp of approval on.
Most people I know who are regular users have absolutely no ambtion and just add to societys ills.
Sandra
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darlenelovesart
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darlene
Loleta
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USA
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Posted - Nov 12 2012 : 5:08:29 PM
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Mary Beth I went to your Oklahoma Bakery Cloth site, and you really have some neat products in there. I will have to look furthers.
As for the Marijuana I live in Humboldt County California which is a big area for this and I love my area but not the Marijuana. The Federal Government keep telling Ca no for legalizing it even though California keeps passing it so it still isn't really legal. It is stinky stuff and pollutes the air when someone smokes it. I am from Colorado too and am not surprised at what goes on there any more but am disappointed in them for that. Maybe the Federal Govt. won't ok it there either.
I am also hearing that they are learning it is not the safe drug they used to think it was. I myself don't think that anything that makes your brain not work or think clearly is not good for you! I like to think clearly and know what is happening around me. I like to be in control of myself.
darlene
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sherrye
True Blue Farmgirl
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sherry
bend in the high desert
oregon
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Posted - Nov 13 2012 : 12:40:41 PM
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for those of us that suffer on a daily basis and still want our share of life it can be a good medicine. since i have days when i cannot walk, or days when i throw up every thing. some days are better than others. i am a glass bubble girl missing about half the blood i need to live. no cure for this. it is genetic. our family carries the gene. i have found ways to keep my cup over flowing instead of stoned dope from pain pills on a couch. i have nerve issues to where i jerk and have a weird gate to my walk. the cbd in the medicine helps those nerves calm down. if you look at research for the medicinal side it is different. the goal is low thc and high cbd. cbd is helpful to the body with out the high. it can be made into creams with castor oil and comfrey for a healer and pain relief. it can be cooked into food. if done properly it is more a body thing than head. people who are abusers are looking for thc. i and cancer and aids and dying elderly are looking for pain body releif they are very different. i just had this conversation with a neighbor. he grows for the other reason. he was appaled that i let mine go past normal harvest. for medicinal i grow betond the normal. then some tri-chomes are brown and have high cbd instead of thc. i hope this just helps folks to have a broader view of different choices for medicines. i have to also use some conventional drugs. they are hard for my liver to handle. if you were to google acute intermittent porphryria and co-pro porphyria you would see i have one of the bad things for a human to have. it is a night mare for me. i very rarely leave my property. everything has to be pure, clean or i take an ambulance ride. mine is life and death each day. our saying here is any day above ground is a good day. i am a very well balanced happy christian farmgirl. i am legal in my state. i am so glad i can control my own pain medicine. i can make organic clean stuff for myself alone. i hope i do not offend any one. i watched my mom suffer with this her whole life with no diagnosis. they said she was having nervous breakdowns. i was the first dna diagnosis we now know my sisters have it 2 of my sons and a niece. as always happy days to you sherrye
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crittergranny
True Blue Farmgirl
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Laura
Lindrith
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Posted - Nov 13 2012 : 5:17:55 PM
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My heart goes out to you Sherrye.....You do what is best for you dont worry about what anyone else thinks. Hugs.
Laura
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Rosemary
True Blue Farmgirl
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Virginia
USA
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Posted - Nov 14 2012 : 12:18:45 PM
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CJ: OMG! Too funny :)
Melina and Jonni: I also thank you for the levity.
The only thing that the criminalization of pot has done for this country is give drug cartels an entrée into this country to market worse drugs. It's the same way Prohibition (of liquor) gave organized crime a huge shot (no pun intended). I think regulating its sale and collecting taxes on it is a much smarter idea.
Up through the 1920s and 30s, there were farms right across the river from DC where hemp was being grown in test "batches" to see which varieties were the best for oil, rope, etc. It was everyone's patriotic duty to grow hemp if they had enough land, for the war effort in WWII -- yes, that late! Shortly fter the war, the powers that be made sure it was demonized. There's a documentary film about that; wish I could remember its name. Anyway, it's easy to grow, doesn't deplete the soil, and is an almost endlessly renewable resource for so many useful products. It would be perfect for small farmers who can't afford all the fertilizers and pesticides required by growing standard crops (many of which deplete the soil, requiring more and more soil amendment, which is mighty expensive. This isn't the kind of cannabis that people use for pain management, glaucoma, or just to relax. That's different. If THAT got legalized, there would be no reason to prohibit cultivation of industrial hemp. I'd get on that bandwagon in a heartbeat.
Sherrye, I read your posts after posting my comment. I wanted to give you a huge hug for your courage in finding ways to cope with your condition and the treatment for it. I understand the steam method works really well. Bless your heart! |
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rphelps4
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roxanna
westport
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Posted - Nov 14 2012 : 9:43:22 PM
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| Hemp growing stopped in 1937, due to the big chemical, paper mills, and oil companies, Henry Ford was working on bio-fuel powered cars and wanted to use hemp for fuel, but was stopped with the new laws, check it out on-line. I think the movie you are talking about is Reffer Madness. The general public did not realize the new law included hemp they just thought it was a law to stop pot production. Roxanna |
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FieldsofThyme
Farmgirl Guide & Schoolmarm / Chapter Leader
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Annab
True Blue Farmgirl
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Anna
Seagrove
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Posted - Nov 15 2012 : 5:18:07 PM
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I already mentioned it earlier
The stuff for industrial growing and use that is WAY beneficial and the stuff for smoking are two different types of plants that cannot be cross bred.
People not in the know confuse pot for hemp and the two are WAY different.
One you SMOKE one you WEAR.
BOTH unfortunately are illegal because of ignorance, stigma, and big government needing its cut it the form of taxation.
Liquor already paid its dues when prohibition ended and it became legal.
It breaks my ever livin' heart to hear you sick people sound like you are on your death beds. I can't even begin to fathom how you must feel. But anything that can be done to help you feel better- especially if it is natural?? You bet!
Thank you for the education, because I learned something new and it broke my heart even more. I hope you each find relief and the government will maybe someday pull its head out of the sand
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crittergranny
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Laura
Lindrith
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Posted - Nov 16 2012 : 02:12:32 AM
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so sad that our nation is so confused and uneducated about agriculture in general. Most of our people are at least 3 generations removed from the farm. It sounds like growing hemp would save a lot of trees and be really good for the environment. Too bad it has been stigmatized like that. I have known for a long time that there are 2 strains but never thought it through much.
Laura
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Annab
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Anna
Seagrove
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Posted - Nov 16 2012 : 4:35:26 PM
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It really would threaten the paper pulp industry for sure. It would also start to save that many more trees. Even for as much recycling that goes on, think about all the paper products there are and just how long it takes for a tree to reach maturity. 30 years?
Now think how long it takes a hemp plant to mature.......which is one season or about 7 months. YES - ONE growing season.
Mind blowing isn't it. And that would be just for paper. Industrial hemp fiber is soft enough to be used for clothing when blended with cotton yet tough enough when strung together that it can also be used for roping much like jute.
In Colonial times the cloth was also used for ship's sails.
Conspircy theorists say that if it were to become legal, it would have DuPont quaking in their boots since they are the biggest manufacturer of synthetics. Not sure how much truth there is to this, but you see how the possibilities are endless if only there were more open minded people and a lot more positive literature out there |
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rphelps4
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roxanna
westport
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Posted - Nov 16 2012 : 9:37:45 PM
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Check the year DuPont got a lot of their patents for synthetics, 1937, the amount of chemicals required to produce paper is crazy, compared to hemp paper. I have made clothing out of hemp cloth and it is wonderful and dyes great. Roxanna
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