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FieldsofThyme Posted - Apr 03 2012 : 05:04:31 AM
ugh...I am adding an electric (solar) fence to my wish list ASAP.

That goat got loose last night by breaking his cable (metal) tie out in half. It was for a 250 lb animal too.

Just now, my son spied him out back munching away. I sure hope hubby doesn't make us sell him.

I'll be doing a lot of praying over our long wish list this year.

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FieldsofThyme Posted - Apr 05 2012 : 2:40:38 PM
Oh Laura, you made me laugh (prison)! Ha ha ha ha!

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crittergranny Posted - Apr 05 2012 : 2:17:08 PM
Yes Kristina, Billy goats are a force to be reckoned with. And they know when they have horns. And I understand your needing to keep him up somewhere, I would too. I don't understand how someone could just let them run. I have run goats on 600 acres and I still didn't let the buck run loose. They stink and they will breed does when the does are too young. I commend you for trying to contain him. It can be hard. Some goat experts will say go look at a prison yard then you know how to build the billy goat pen....lol.
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FieldsofThyme Posted - Apr 05 2012 : 1:41:39 PM
Also, I waned to add....never thought this post would cause so much controversy....our barns are from the 1950's and are wood and falling apart.

Have a blessed weekend.

Thanks for all your tips, advice, and ideas.

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FieldsofThyme Posted - Apr 05 2012 : 1:32:05 PM
Have you ever had a billy goat?

Our billy goat will tear apart a fence his horn. He did this last year, setting all the females free. Billy goats are not like the females. We have a Lamancha female with horns and she does not do this with her horns.

It may just be our billy, but that's his behavior. Even so, we love him.

Thanks for inquiring.

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grace gerber Posted - Apr 05 2012 : 12:56:50 PM
I am not understanding about why he can not be in a barn with his horns. Like I said everyone here at the farm (except the llamas, dogs and hens) have huge horns and everyone lives in barns, has fence and are never tied. So I guess what I am needing is better information as to what is going on inorder to assist.

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FieldsofThyme Posted - Apr 04 2012 : 2:56:11 PM
No trees here to tie him on. Not by the barns anyway. I just don't have other options right now. He can't be put in a barn - his horns.

...however, I do appreciate the tips and advice from personal experiences.

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sherrye Posted - Apr 04 2012 : 12:08:31 PM
boy i hear you grace. even with cows and pigs its the bonding and spirit they are in when young. i had cows way too flightly. they were pasture cows. even now with the whole ordeal with sweet pea. she is trained to be calm. she stood for 7 times of palpitating. i am sorry for your billy. i do want to share what happened to us. when the boys were little we had a pet goat walter. we just loved him. he would ride in my v.w. to town and home and never have an accident in the car. we were the hippies with goats in green acres oregon.LOL well we staked walter. he was very used to this. we knew no better. that is why i am sharing this. it started to rain. we lived on the coast. it poured. we were at the store for a fast run and home. the boy was so desperate to get out of the rain he jerked the collar and cracked his trachea flat. we tried mouth to mouth to no avail. found out later goats have a brittle trachea. it can collapse from pulling on a rope or lead. even when you trying to catch them or pull them into a pen. they will choke and there is nothing you can do. THEN isabella my rescue jersey was tied. i never tie her. thought i will run in and get the phone. 1 minute. i was back out. she was upside down with the rope around her belly and head. she was dying. a 1000 pound cow you can not roll over. she was trained to move when i tell her. she listened and she wiggled and i was able to unclip her halter. life saved. never will i tie an animal dragging a rope or any thing. a run with a short length as suggested between trees is safer. JMPO

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grace gerber Posted - Apr 04 2012 : 09:45:41 AM
I am so very sorry to read of your situation... I have 29 billies here at my farm and I do not have these issues. It is the training they received as little ones that sets up their life. When people come here they are amazed that these huge horned boys are so sweet, gentle and well mannered. I can let them out of their pastures and they wonder on my property with out leads, fences or problems and return themselves back to their pens at sunset. It breaks my heart to read that you are having issues. Let me know if I can offer some suggestions.

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FieldsofThyme Posted - Apr 03 2012 : 4:01:21 PM
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Originally posted by crittergranny

Goats! they take us through the range of emotions. When I used to keep a buck and would stake him out my DH would run a thick cable along the ground attached to the base of 2 trees and chain him to that. The chain would slide up and down the cable with a large oblong chain link that screws open and shut.It gives them a larger range of motion. One can find thick cable at salvage yards maybe. Wish I was closer, we have a water well service and have used cable around. The cable we attached to the trees would run about 50 yards, but it could be even much longer if one has clear space between two sturdy trees or posts or something. Goats are a challenge but guys like challenges, so maybe if you appeal to your hubbys problem solving nature :)I hope I explained it clearly. Basically goat has a strong collar attached with an oblong eye or bull snap to a 10 ft or so chain that is attached to the large oblong chain link that is attached to and slides on the heavy duty cable that is strung between 2 trees. Good luck with him.
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Thanks. I'll have hubby and my daughter read this too. We have purchased a nice strong collar now, and we are looking for free cable that is stronger than what we have.

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FieldsofThyme Posted - Apr 03 2012 : 3:59:53 PM
We don't have small children here, and we have a warning sign on the barn, but you just never now.

If I had the money I'd put him in an electric fence today, but that's not happening on our income and raising 6 kids. My 15 yo dd is the "goat keeper" and she keeps him in line. We are also on 6 acres and he's behind the biggest barn.

We've also told all of our family to not approach him. We told them he'd either ram them and hurt them with his horn, or pee on them. And after they all came and smelled him last fall....I'm pretty sure that no one will approach him.

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crittergranny Posted - Apr 03 2012 : 3:28:36 PM
And a word of caution billy goats are very strong and if one is staking them out one needs to be careful not to let children get around them unsupervised because the chains or ropes can get wound around a child's neck pretty easily
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crittergranny Posted - Apr 03 2012 : 3:24:12 PM
Goats! they take us through the range of emotions. When I used to keep a buck and would stake him out my DH would run a thick cable along the ground attached to the base of 2 trees and chain him to that. The chain would slide up and down the cable with a large oblong chain link that screws open and shut.It gives them a larger range of motion. One can find thick cable at salvage yards maybe. Wish I was closer, we have a water well service and have used cable around. The cable we attached to the trees would run about 50 yards, but it could be even much longer if one has clear space between two sturdy trees or posts or something. Goats are a challenge but guys like challenges, so maybe if you appeal to your hubbys problem solving nature :)I hope I explained it clearly. Basically goat has a strong collar attached with an oblong eye or bull snap to a 10 ft or so chain that is attached to the large oblong chain link that is attached to and slides on the heavy duty cable that is strung between 2 trees. Good luck with him.
Laura

Horse poor in the boonies.

www.nmbarrelhorses.com

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