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Carol
Moderator/MaryJane's Design Diva

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Carol
Moscow Idaho
USA
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Posted - Jan 07 2009 :  4:47:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Welcome to Bread the MaryJane Way, a method for making true sourdough bread launched in 2009 in our MaryJanesFarm Feb/March magazine (themed Simply Bee). Join in on the discussion below to share your experience and successes!

Alee
True Blue Farmgirl

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Alee
Worland Wy
USA
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Posted - Jan 07 2009 :  4:59:47 PM  Show Profile  Click to see Alee's MSN Messenger address  Send Alee a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
MMM! Just reading your recipes makes my mouth water!

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kristin sherrill
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kristin
chickamauga ga
USA
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Posted - Jan 07 2009 :  5:35:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That does look good and pretty easy and not very time consuming.

Have you tried sour dough using fresh ground whole wheat yet? I'd love to know how it turns out. I've tried it and it just doesn't want to rise much. I know sour dough is heavy, but that's very heavy.

I have well water outside, too. I can use that? Or should I get bottled water?

Kris

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lisamarie508
True Blue Farmgirl

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Lisa
Idaho City ID
USA
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Posted - Jan 07 2009 :  6:24:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I soooo want to make that caraway-rye bread. mmmmmm There's nothing like a good ham and swiss on rye!

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katie-ell
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Katie
Illinois
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Posted - Jan 07 2009 :  6:56:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This looks fantastic! I have saved the no-knead recipe from NY Times but haven't made it yet . . . this may turn out to be my go-to recipe instead. Tomorrow begins Mission: Bread the MaryJane Way!!

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Carol
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Carol
Moscow Idaho
USA
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Posted - Jan 07 2009 :  7:09:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There's still one last page of instructions coming that we'll get posted tomorrow. Make sure you come back and read the helpful hints it contains before you get started!

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Alee
True Blue Farmgirl

22785 Posts

Alee
Worland Wy
USA
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Posted - Jan 07 2009 :  7:30:01 PM  Show Profile  Click to see Alee's MSN Messenger address  Send Alee a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I think Simply Bee is one of the issue names of MaryJanesFarm magazine. Also- Kristin I think you can use well water but you could try it both ways and see which one does better.

When I had my sour dough, it wasn't heavier than "normal" bread by any means- in fact it was much lighter. I think it all depends on how active you starter is. If it isn't active enough give it a few extra days to let the yeasties beasties multiply more.

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country roads
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Melissa
Shinglehouse Pa
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Posted - Jan 07 2009 :  9:06:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would love to try my hand at sourdough bread. Does it have to be organic flour? or can it just be regular bread flour?

Take care, Melissa.

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Alee
True Blue Farmgirl

22785 Posts

Alee
Worland Wy
USA
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Posted - Jan 07 2009 :  9:19:19 PM  Show Profile  Click to see Alee's MSN Messenger address  Send Alee a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Regular flour has been through more processing than organic flour and has lost a lot of the natural yeast. If you use regular flour the results will not necessarily turn out. Organic flour is best and has much more natural yeast.

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5 acre Farmgirl
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Tonasket WA.
USA
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Posted - Jan 07 2009 :  9:52:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello girls....
I typed in the addy for the bread and it did not work...it is...
www.breadthemaryjaneway.org
Where do I order Organic flour?
After I posted, I clicked on it, and it lead me right to here,,,HA,HA,Ha!!!LOL!!! I am a ?????????

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country roads
True Blue Farmgirl

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Melissa
Shinglehouse Pa
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Posted - Jan 08 2009 :  09:20:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Alee, I guess I'll have to make trip to Tops. Our only grocery store here doesn't carry anything fancy like that. ;)

Take care, Melissa.

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janiee
True Blue Farmgirl

779 Posts

janie
waco tx
USA
779 Posts

Posted - Jan 08 2009 :  10:44:47 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a question....I live in Texas and right now the weather is jumping up and down (lows in 30 highs in 60-70)...will that effect my starter? I live in an older house (very drafty) stove is right by north side back door ...so cannot leave it in the kitchen area..maybe a bedroom on the south side of the house might work (away from windows)...??
janiee
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Alee
True Blue Farmgirl

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Alee
Worland Wy
USA
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Posted - Jan 08 2009 :  11:41:16 AM  Show Profile  Click to see Alee's MSN Messenger address  Send Alee a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Ladies!

I just read through the excellent article and it really answers a lot of questions! If you read the intro page right above the picture there are some words in green that say "Lets get started" Click there and it opens up the article for you. Once you read through the article, the url www.breadthemaryjaneway.org will lead you back to this topic so that we can continue the discussion!

I hope that clears up some confusion?

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ThePixiesPlayhouse
True Blue Farmgirl

127 Posts

Terri
Biggs CA
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Posted - Jan 08 2009 :  12:08:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am going to have to try this.....maybe I will start it this weekend.

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KansasConnie
True Blue Farmgirl

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Connie
Atchison County Kansas
USA
69 Posts

Posted - Jan 09 2009 :  08:28:43 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When I rec'd my magazine this week I was so excited! I love sourdough and usually use the type that involves yeast...but this will be so much better!! I can't wait to start the mother! Has anyone started any yet?

Kansas Connie
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Alee
True Blue Farmgirl

22785 Posts

Alee
Worland Wy
USA
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Posted - Jan 09 2009 :  10:00:44 AM  Show Profile  Click to see Alee's MSN Messenger address  Send Alee a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I am waiting to get a mold infestation out of my kitchen before starting mine. My husband was trying to re-invent penicillin while I was away!

Alee
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homemom
True Blue Farmgirl

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Ruth
Warwick RI
USA
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Posted - Jan 09 2009 :  12:55:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can't wait to try this bread. I love bread!! I picked up a wonderful yesterday at Whole Foods, so yummy with such a nice crust.
I can't wait to get my magazine.
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lisamarie508
True Blue Farmgirl

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Lisa
Idaho City ID
USA
2648 Posts

Posted - Jan 09 2009 :  5:12:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Finding organic anything is a chore for me since all the stores are an hour away. I'm not even sure if the regular grocery stores in Boise carry King Arthur Organic flours and I don't shop the expensive stores. So, here is a link and I don't think they're prices are bad at all!

Oh, I got my magazine today!

http://www.kingarthurflour.com/shop/list.jsp?select=C79

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QueenofQuiteAlot
True Blue Farmgirl

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Dalyn
Milk 'n Honey Ranch Central, WA
USA
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Posted - Jan 09 2009 :  6:06:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Janie, yes weather and temp. changes like that do effect the starter, but keep it in a draft free place and you should do well. Even if it does mess with your starter, it's tough and will bounce back *U*

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sweetproserpina
True Blue Farmgirl

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meg
Vinemount Ontario
Canada
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Posted - Jan 09 2009 :  6:52:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That bread looks so good!

Kind of embarrassing question though- how cold is too cold for the starter? My kitchen gets pretty cold.. all right, my house gets pretty cold (like 40-50F cold) when we don't have the stove going. Will my starter work, or should I just wait til the weather warms up a bit before trying this out?

I seem to remember the goldminers in Alaska keeping their starters alive through the winter, so my wild guess is that it should be alright but...

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Alee
True Blue Farmgirl

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Alee
Worland Wy
USA
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Posted - Jan 09 2009 :  7:42:34 PM  Show Profile  Click to see Alee's MSN Messenger address  Send Alee a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
That should be fine Meg- you can always wrap it in a towel for some insulation if you get worried, and just keep an eye on the starter- If it doesn't look like it is quite active enough on the day schedule mentioned in the article, giver her a few more days as the cold will slow growth down a bit. Moving her to a warm environment by the stove during the day will help though. Also if you have the stove banked at night and it doesn't get too hot, perhaps she could over night on the stove to get the residual heat.

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JenniferJuniper
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Jennifer
New Hampshire
USA
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Posted - Jan 10 2009 :  3:39:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I will definitely vouch for the necessity for organic flour and purified water....On my first-ever attempt to make startet I used tap water and grocery store-brand flour. It turned black in a week. Lessson learned.
I'm blessed to find King Arthur in all the grocery stores (even in 20-lb bags) - they are a Vermont company so fellow New England farmgirls should be able to find it.

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ginny
Farmgirl at Heart

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Jeannine
Springfield MO
USA
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Posted - Jan 10 2009 :  4:37:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's Sat., rest day for the starter.
Do I take out 2 cups today, wait until tomorrow, Sun.? When it's been divided, it rests in another container? I've tried to figure this out but I'm not sure.
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Alee
True Blue Farmgirl

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Alee
Worland Wy
USA
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Posted - Jan 10 2009 :  7:45:04 PM  Show Profile  Click to see Alee's MSN Messenger address  Send Alee a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
On Saturday morning you are supposed to take out 2 cups and use the two cups for baking that day.

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therusticcottage
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Kay
Vancouver WA
USA
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Posted - Jan 11 2009 :  1:30:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This looks so good! I love to bake bread. I'll have to get organic flour so I can make the starter.



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Buffalomary
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Mary
Caldwell ID
USA
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Posted - Jan 11 2009 :  1:40:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can't tell you how pleased I am to see this article about the sourdough starter! One of my goals has been to make sourdough pancakes and bread like my Grandma (my mom's mom) did. I don't know how many times I have tried to get a starter going but it would usually fail and turn black. I never once thought it might be the flour and water I was using. My grandparents lived in the Ozarks and were very self-sufficient. They grew and grounded their own flour. So it's no wonder she had a very active mother. I can't wait to give it another try! Now-a-days, my other grandma likes to eat sourdough bread so it will be neat to be able to make her some as well.

WooYoo, can't hardly wait to get started!!

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