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prariehawk
True Blue Farmgirl

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Cindy

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Posted - Sep 25 2012 :  2:52:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nini--first of all, a person just doesn't "succumb" to depression; I'd like to use this as a chance to educate those who haven't experienced the illness called depression. It's caused mainly by a chemical imbalance in the brain--your neurons don't connect with each other the way they're supposed to. It's like there's a switchboard in your brain, and the operator isn't connecting all the calls, puts through wrong calls, etc. That's why medication helps. it also helps to educate yourself about the facts and learn ways of dealing with the ups and downs that inevitably go along with this illness. It's not a weakness; it's not a character disorder; it's an illness, just like the common cold. It is NOT caused by a lack of faith. My faith, which is hard to explain, lies in knowing that God still loves me no matter how bad I feel. And that's all I really need to know. When I'm feeling down, I look for beauty-in nature, in the eyes of the young, in the wisdom of the elderly--because as the poet says: beauty is truth. And I add: and Truth is God . Therefore God is beautiful. and this helps get me through the rough times. And I know that my illness has helped me to see this more clearly. So it all works out according to God's plan in the end. If God can use a murderer like Moses to lead His people out of Egypt, then surely He can use depression to help His children to grow spiritually. I hope this makes sense.
Cindy

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Ninibini
True Blue Farmgirl

7044 Posts

Nini
Pennsylvania
USA
7044 Posts

Posted - Sep 25 2012 :  3:04:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh my goodness, Cindy - I think you took my comment in the wrong way - or I said it wrong somehow. I sincerely apologize. My husband suffers from depression and has been on medication for years. My brother-in-law suffers with it as well. I do understand the illness very well, as it affects not only the person himself, but everyone who loves him. (My husband has a chemical imbalance, my brother in law suffers a different form of depression.) I never meant to say anyone with depression suffers from a lack of faith - not at all! I offered the Scriptures to offer consolation, support and strength, as Nancy had asked what the Lord had to say about it. When I said David didn't succumb, all I meant was that his words show that his way of fighting it was to press into the Lord, as I am sure you both do. Please forgive me. I would never intentionally mean to hurt or offend anyone. Honest. Never. Ever. Never. I hope you know that; surely if you know me at all through my posts, you know that. I'm so thankful that you know the Lord and that you find refuge in Him like David did. God uses everyone who turns to Him - everyone! Praise be His Holy Name! My second post was in no way related to the first - I had originally come on to post it, then saw Nancy's post and yours and wanted to first share those Scriptures, as that was more important, that's all! SO sorry for the confusion! :)

Love to you in Christ -

Nini

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Ninibini
True Blue Farmgirl

7044 Posts

Nini
Pennsylvania
USA
7044 Posts

Posted - Sep 25 2012 :  4:29:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cindy - I think it was how I typed it... I fixed it to read more clearly. I'm still so sorry - I honestly didn't mean it the way you read it, at all! Big hugs - Nini

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prariehawk
True Blue Farmgirl

2914 Posts

Cindy

2914 Posts

Posted - Sep 25 2012 :  5:33:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nini-yes, I guess I was sort of taken aback by your original post. I'm sure you meant no harm by it. What I was trying to say, though, is that I don't believe depression is all bad. Most people who experience it are more sensitive than the general population. And it gives you compassion for those who suffer. I've known lots of people with depression and the ones who handle it the best are the ones who have made a truce with it. As for the Bible, I have a CD by the group Eden's Bridge, a CD called Celtic Psalms, and there is one song called "How Long Oh Lord" that gives me solace when I feel down. Also their version of Psalm 27. I find the Psalms to be a lot more powerful when they're set to music. I haven't been to church in quite a while but I was driving around the other day and saw a church offering a Taize service. Taize is a type of music that is basically one phrase repeated over and over. It's simple but powerful. so I may attend a service there this Sunday. I've been to churches where people basically sleepwalk through the service and others where they put on a good show but I don't go to church to see a show. I want to experience something sublime but powerful. i know you're a kind-hearted person and would never intentionally say something that might hurt someone else. So don't worry about that. I'm not angry or anything like that, I just go into my psychology-mode at times because that's what my degree is in. God bless!
Cindy

"Vast floods can't quench love, no matter what love did/ Rivers can't drown love, no matter where love's hid"--Sinead O'Connor
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Ninibini
True Blue Farmgirl

7044 Posts

Nini
Pennsylvania
USA
7044 Posts

Posted - Sep 26 2012 :  10:18:50 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've never heard of a Taize service, before, Cindy! I'll have to do some reading up on it! Have you ever participated in a "soaking" service? That's another beautiful way to worship and receive as well! It's a form of intimate prayer and worship, where you just rest in the Lord and enjoy being in His presence. It's another simple, yet powerful way to experience Him. Absolutely beautiful!

Hugs -

Nini

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FieldsofThyme
Farmgirl Guide & Schoolmarm / Chapter Leader

4928 Posts



USA
4928 Posts

Posted - Sep 29 2012 :  04:55:20 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
First, I want to thank all of you for praying for our daughter (18yo) and our family.

Please keep her in prayer. I don't know how to explain her at this time, but I personally feel like she has been taken over by a demonic spirit. It could be her head injury, but I just see things that are so scary right now. I broke down and called the University. She is indeed still there, but had not attended any classes. I have spoken to a woman who is meeting with our dd and have suggested they try to counsel her with a campus professional. I am not sure if she will accept it, but they are aware of the situation and were already questioning her words, actions, and non-actions, her health...just everything. I know it's confusing to not explain this in detail, but there are so may lies coming out of her mouth, and now we think (including the campus staff) she may not even realize she is telling lies. Very scary and sad at the same time. She is really messing with everyone's minds right now.

Please continue to pray that my 20 yo son gets a better job. He's really struggling to stay where he is at this time.

I have a friend holding a Bible study on spiritual warfare, but cannot attend. I have read a few books, but if you have any other suggestions, I would love to hear them.



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darlenelovesart
True Blue Farmgirl

5522 Posts

darlene
Loleta California
USA
5522 Posts

Posted - Sep 29 2012 :  2:28:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Cindy, Nini and Kristina.
My heart goes out to all of you and you are in my prayers for all the stress you each are going through, I hope you find the peace in your lives that I know you will find. For depression, and for family stress.
In God's love
darlene

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prariehawk
True Blue Farmgirl

2914 Posts

Cindy

2914 Posts

Posted - Sep 29 2012 :  8:19:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kristina--my heart goes out to you and your daughter. Anytime the brain is injured, either physically or psychically, it's possible for negative energies to invade it. The only way to combat is through keeping positive thoughts and feelings. I know you feel scared and sad but keep praying and envisioning your dd surrounded by healing light. It's also possible, if she was/is living in a dorm, that there are unclean spirits in the dorm. I lived in such a dorm when I was in college and I wouldn't have believed it at the time but i do now. Try not to let your mind be disturbed by the thought of evil spirits. Most evil spirits are sad, pathetic creatures, more to be pitied than feared. Keep praying for your daughter as it sounds like she is in a bad place, both physically and spiritually. I am also praying that the Holy Spirit protects her from the negative influence that some colleges have on students. And I would try to get her back home or at least in a safer environment.
Cindy

"Vast floods can't quench love, no matter what love did/ Rivers can't drown love, no matter where love's hid"--Sinead O'Connor
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FieldsofThyme
Farmgirl Guide & Schoolmarm / Chapter Leader

4928 Posts



USA
4928 Posts

Posted - Oct 01 2012 :  04:58:35 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you all!

Today I woke up with a swollen gland in my neck. Very painful too. I had a few sore throats that I managed to get rid of, but this scares me. I will keep positive thoughts.


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darlenelovesart
True Blue Farmgirl

5522 Posts

darlene
Loleta California
USA
5522 Posts

Posted - Oct 01 2012 :  9:58:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Positive thoughts going up for you from me Kristina...you take care God is with you. and your daughter...
blessings
darlene

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Tes
Farmgirl in Training

33 Posts

Nancy
New Jersey
USA
33 Posts

Posted - Oct 02 2012 :  6:42:15 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Nini,

Just wanted to thank you for all those wonderful Bible verses that you typed a while back! I have read them before, and sometimes we just take them for granted or feel like they are meant for someone else instead of reading them and meditating on them everyday! I know that I forget to take Gods Word as my own, to make it a part of my being. I forget that God is with me and His Spirit lives within me. The distractions of the world and the busyness of life far too often get in the way. I wish that I lived on a farm with a bunch of cows that I could just sit in the middle of and enjoy Gods creatures and creation! I just get myself in a hopeless rut, and ruminate on my problems. Well, time to start ruminating on Gods Word! Dont you think?

Nancy

"I raise my eyes unto the hills, from whence cometh my help? My help comes from the Lord, Maker of heaven and earth" from Psalm 121
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FieldsofThyme
Farmgirl Guide & Schoolmarm / Chapter Leader

4928 Posts



USA
4928 Posts

Posted - Oct 03 2012 :  10:01:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's day 3 - no change on my health. I ordered a natural remedy, so I will see how that goes. In the meantime, I am concentrating on organic foods from our garden for meals, and continued positive thoughts. I'm drinking organic teas to try and boost my immunity as well.

Dh is getting headaches and both of us are worried about his stress at work, and at home (dd).

Please keep our 18 yo dd in your prayers. I haven't updated on the prayer request, but there is more going on again. Sigh....

Thanks for your prayers

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Ninibini
True Blue Farmgirl

7044 Posts

Nini
Pennsylvania
USA
7044 Posts

Posted - Oct 03 2012 :  12:15:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You're so welcome, Nancy! I know what you mean... sometimes when life carries us away, it's really hard to believe that these promises are truly ours. But they are - thank the Lord! I've leaned on and pressed into the Scriptures so much over the years. And in the darkest nights, in the toughest, most scarey times, I would just repeat them and ask Him to give me faith and trust in Him. He always did. It's very true: God's Word does not return void! And I really do believe there is a lot of power released in the spoken Word. Our God is an awesome God, isn't He? I think sometimes, too, it's hard for us to remember that He is not like us, but rather, it is we who must strive to be like Him, you know what I mean?

Kristina - I feel so bad... As soon as the cool weather hits us, you always seem to get socked with illness, and yet you do everything right! Hang in there, sister and keep on keepin' on. I'm praying for your health to be really, really good and strong this fall and winter, and that you'll get to enjoy the seasons much more fully! I'm also praying for your family situation and the challenges you are all facing. In time, it will all fall into place. Just remember God is in control and working on your behalf. "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them that are called according to His purpose." Romans 8:28. You fit that bill - you love Him, we all know you do; AND you are called according to His purpose in so many aspects of your life - as wife, mother, daughter, sister, farmgirl... as well as with all the other hats you wear in this life. You are His precious daughter, and He loves you. We do, too. :) God love and bless you!

Hugs and happiness today, sisters!

Nini

Farmgirl Sister #1974

God gave us two hands... one to help ourselves, and one to help others!


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smiley
True Blue Farmgirl

650 Posts

lea
pea ridge arkansas
USA
650 Posts

Posted - Oct 03 2012 :  3:34:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi everyone. Please pray for my mother in law. The mass on her brain has doubled in the past year. She is to frail to undergo the surgery. A successful operation requires learning to walk,talk etc. again. She was sent to a nursing home yesterday for 2 weeks of strength building rehab.She is asking to see her kids. The drs say she needs 24/7 care from now on. She wants to keep her apt. My husband has one brother and they are both going home to be with her. We have a 6 hr drive and brother in law is about 15 hrs away. Their dad passed in April so this probably cna be a testing time for all concerned. Thanks for praying and being there.
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Ninibini
True Blue Farmgirl

7044 Posts

Nini
Pennsylvania
USA
7044 Posts

Posted - Oct 03 2012 :  3:47:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh my gosh, Lea... I will definitely pray for her. If you ever need to talk, please email me. God love and bless you, her and all of those who love her. Big, warm hugs in the Lord - Nini

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FieldsofThyme
Farmgirl Guide & Schoolmarm / Chapter Leader

4928 Posts



USA
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Posted - Oct 04 2012 :  05:04:16 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lea, I am praying also.

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darlenelovesart
True Blue Farmgirl

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darlene
Loleta California
USA
5522 Posts

Posted - Oct 05 2012 :  10:19:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lea
I am praying for your mother in law and family and for you through all this.
Kristina my continued prayers going up for you and your family.
Nini, Thank you so much for just being you!
God bless you too.
love
darlene

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FieldsofThyme
Farmgirl Guide & Schoolmarm / Chapter Leader

4928 Posts



USA
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Posted - Oct 06 2012 :  05:55:18 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm considering urgent care today. Not sure what the cost will be, so I may call first. I can't afford it, but I am in pain today.

Yesterday was pretty stressful. I explained the day to hubby, and he was mad at me, and told me I had enough stress. He was mad in a good way, in a protective kind of way (concerned for my health).

I prayed all night, and slept up until 4am and could not sleep after that.

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Ninibini
True Blue Farmgirl

7044 Posts

Nini
Pennsylvania
USA
7044 Posts

Posted - Oct 06 2012 :  07:11:29 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kristina - I just emailed you. I really, really hope you'll go get checked out today. And I am so happy that your husband is responding to your needs in such a loving manner - answered prayers, girlfriend! I will be praying for you and hope you'll keep us updated. Love you! Nini

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Ninibini
True Blue Farmgirl

7044 Posts

Nini
Pennsylvania
USA
7044 Posts

Posted - Oct 06 2012 :  1:19:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi girls - just me again. I just came back from church where I ran into my neighbor and dear friend Karen. She has been battling cancer for the past three years. It started out as breast cancer, but had metastasized to her liver and leg. She had a brief reprieve and was "cancer free" last spring, but it came back over the summer when they found tumors in her spine. It has now moved into her shoulder/clavicle area, and she has been having chemo for it. She said the chemo has been mild, though - not the kind that makes you "SICK sick, thanfully. Her last tests, though, showed her cancer signals are extremely high. She has to go have a scan on Monday and she is just so upset she can't concentrate on anything else, describing herself repeatedly as "terribly upset," and "so scattered." She is tired of all of this and terribly frustrated. She said if she dies, she dies, so what? - she knows where she is going. But then in the next breath, she says she constantly tells the Lord that she has grandchildren and she really wants to live to see them grow up, get married and have children.. She says she still has so much she wants to see and do, and this is just too much. I told her how my son recently helped me tremendously through a terrible trial by telling me, "Peace, Mom... Have peace." And then I told her the same. She just hugged me and cried. She said she is still fighting it and will do whatever she can.. she even was annointed twice this past week and has been seeking the counsel of her spiritual advisor a lot more often. She just needs peace and healing. Please help with prayers. Please help her to have peace, and join me in petitioning the Lord for her complete healing. My heart is just breaking for her - and she is just such a lovely, faith-filled woman... This old world of ours needs her! We all do! I have to run - I'm going to try to go to early Mass tonight and sit with her and her husband. I just wanted to come home and ask for you all to join me in prayer for her and her husband, Rene. Thanks so much! Love you all! God bless you! Nini

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darlenelovesart
True Blue Farmgirl

5522 Posts

darlene
Loleta California
USA
5522 Posts

Posted - Oct 06 2012 :  5:50:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Kristina
I will be praying for you that they are able to ease your pain and that it won't cost too much.. Blessings and take care
Nini, I will be praying for your friend that she will be healed and cured from her cancers. I will pray for the fear she must be having that God takes away that fear and gives her the strength to get through this, and I will pray for her to realize what a precious friend she has in you who will help give her strength to go through this. Blessings to you and to you to Kristina.
God be with you
love darlene

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Ninibini
True Blue Farmgirl

7044 Posts

Nini
Pennsylvania
USA
7044 Posts

Posted - Oct 06 2012 :  6:14:07 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you so much, Darlene. SO much. I hate that she's going through this. If you knew her.. you'd just love her. :)

Farmgirl Sister #1974

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FieldsofThyme
Farmgirl Guide & Schoolmarm / Chapter Leader

4928 Posts



USA
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Posted - Oct 07 2012 :  06:13:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nini, I sent you back an e-mail.

Here is the update.
I went.
The diagnosis so far: it is a swollen lymph node in the lower back of my neck. These typically only swell due to an infection in the head. She could not find an infection, and didn't think I had a sinus infection either (although I have had dizziness, ear drainage, and such). She said if it does not go down in 3-4 weeks (tomorrow is one week), then they will have to biopsy it. I can take Motrin and put warm compresses on it for now. No antibiotics. Now I wait.

I was expecting to pay $90.00. The blessing part about this trip to urgent care, was finding out our insurance now has a $30.00 co-pay. Woot woot to that. I couldn't believe it! All those calls and appeals got us a better insurance plan, although I am upset they never told us or informed us via mail. Grrr!

Thank you for all your prayers. This is nerve racking to say the least, on top of stress with the kids and of course my 18 you dd.

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Ninibini
True Blue Farmgirl

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Nini
Pennsylvania
USA
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Posted - Oct 07 2012 :  08:26:53 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Will continue to pray you through this, Kristina. So glad you were able to go and that things worked out in your favor with the insurance and co-pay! What a relief! Years ago, my DH had condition with the lymph nodes on the back similar to that as you describe. It was very scarey, but all turned out well. I am praying that it will be the same for you! :) I pray the Lord will give you peace and heal you right away! Hugs - Nini

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darlenelovesart
True Blue Farmgirl

5522 Posts

darlene
Loleta California
USA
5522 Posts

Posted - Oct 07 2012 :  5:18:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes Nini I bet I would love her too.

Kristina
My prayers are that that infection will just go down by what you do for it and the warm compresses. Can you take Ibuprofen? It works for me.
take care
love
darlene

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