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countrymommy85
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Krystle
Polson MT
USA
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Posted - Jan 02 2013 :  10:08:58 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I found Zote soap at my store the other day. I picked it up to try it in my homemade laundry soap. I like to make and alternate between homemade liquid and homemade dry soap. I usually use Fels Naptha. I tried that coconut soap (I can't remember the brand name!) but it didn't clean or freshen as well as the Fels Naptha. My recipe for dry soap calls for finely grated Ivory soap. Has anyone used Ivory soap in their homemade laundry soap?

How about Zote? Does that clean well in homemade laundry soap? How would I use it- Dry or Liquid? Does it stain treat like Fels.

Are there any other good bar soaps (other than homemade bar soap)for use in homemade laundry soap? Thanks for input!

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Bridge
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Posted - Jan 02 2013 :  12:47:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I like the pink zote in my Laundry soap recipe. I began with Fels Naptha, but then tried the Zote and I like it better.

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Posted - Jan 02 2013 :  2:39:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I use Ivory in mine. I run it through a food processor before using it to break down the soap flakes.
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Catherine Farmgirl Sister #76
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Posted - Jan 02 2013 :  3:48:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's funny...I am the opposite of Bridgette...I began with Zote and then switched to Fels-Naptha. I make 10 gallons liquid at a time. I also add essential oils like Tea Tree and Lemon or Lavender (whichever aroma mood I'm in).

One of the best compliments from one of my daughters: "Moma, you smell good...like dirt."
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Diane
Bandera TX
USA
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Posted - Jan 02 2013 :  4:01:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have used all three! Just depends on what's on sale at the time. My DH had a problem with the Fels Naptha on his skin.

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Amy
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Posted - Jan 02 2013 :  5:52:43 PM  Show Profile  Send MrsRooster a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Fels is or was made from Napthlene. It is a by-product of oil production. Can't get a straight anwer about it's ingredients now. Zote is plant based.

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marianne
The Beautiful Pacific NW Washington State
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Posted - Jan 04 2013 :  07:32:36 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Amy your information is really interesting. I would like to stick to plant based products ...

Catherine, how much essential oils do you add to a gallon of soap?

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countrymommy85
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Krystle
Polson MT
USA
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Posted - Jan 07 2013 :  7:22:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I noticed for Zote I had to use a little more of my dry laundry soap to get them clean than when I used the Fels Naptha. I only used half a bar of Zote, maybe I should have grated the entire bar of Zote up? Any input for that? Also, does the Ivory soap dissolve properly if finely grated or will it use a film on the clothes after a while? Thanks again :)

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Heather B
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Heather
Longmont Colorado
USA
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Posted - Jan 07 2013 :  7:36:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm having issues with my front loader soap screen clogging when I use the grated soap in my "dry" laundry soap. This causes water to back up and spill over the fill drawer. I haven't tried making a liquid yet.
Anyone else have this problem? Fixes?

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MrsRooster
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Amy
Seabrook TX
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Posted - Jan 08 2013 :  09:56:38 AM  Show Profile  Send MrsRooster a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I use the entire bar or Zote.

It worked better when I put 1/4 cup of the mix in a plastic cup and filled the rest up with hot water and poured the whole thing into the washer.

You can also buy Zote grated in a box. It is called Zote Flakes. I liked it better when I did the grating because I can grate it smaller.

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Rosemary
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Posted - Jan 08 2013 :  11:28:31 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
All the ingredients in modern Fels Naptha are listed on their website: http://www.felsnaptha.com/ . It used to contain a very harsh ingredient called Stoddard's Solution or something like that, but supposedly doesn't anymore. I think they changed the spelling slightly to reflect that. In any event, you should use only a tiny amount in your laundry. I use mine to pre-treat stains, then use my regular laundry powder mix, which contains maybe 6 times the combined amounts of borax, washing soda and baking soda as Fels.
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Posted - Jan 08 2013 :  6:54:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I use Ivory, washing soda and borax and run it all through a food processor to break it down. Never had any problems with it.If any little pieces of soap remain on the clothes after washing, they dissolve in the dryer. I use a dryer cause I'd be afraid someone would steal my clothes if I hung them up to dry. Wish I lived in the country.
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countrymommy85
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Krystle
Polson MT
USA
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Posted - Jan 14 2013 :  07:52:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I really like the 'clean' smell of Zote, I didn't mind the smell of the Fels either. Now I am wondering if I can use half Zote and half Fels in my laundry soap and use that when I wash my husbands work (mechanic) clothes? The Zote didn't seem to get the deeper dirt out like the Fels would. Any one know if using half and half would work like that or should I stick to one or the other?

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texdane
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Nicole
Sandy Hook CT
USA
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Posted - Jan 16 2013 :  08:27:46 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've used Fels Naptha for the last few years in my dry laundry soap, which I love. The only thing is every few months I do notice a bit of soap scum ring around the edge of the inside of the washer. I clean it out with an all-natural citrus based scum remover. I wonder if Ivory would eliminate that? My detergent recipe calls for one third bar grated Fels-Naptha or 1 whole bar Ivory. Wiki-pedia has an interesting entry on Ivory. Their website redirects you to their Facebook page, where someone recently posted that they test on animals. When I looked at it, they had not responded. Anyway, wonder if anyone finds soap scum in their washer, too?

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MrsRooster
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Amy
Seabrook TX
USA
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Posted - Jan 16 2013 :  11:01:40 AM  Show Profile  Send MrsRooster a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I use vinegar for a rinse (in my Downy ball) and I don't have this problem. I don't need fabric softner either except with fleece or sweats.

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Nicole
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Posted - Jan 17 2013 :  06:05:52 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
@ Mrs. Rooster I do the vinegar rinse, too. Love it! I still get a bit of nasty scum but think it has to do with my well water as well. See you use Zote. I'll try that next time. :)

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Katlady93
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Charlotte
Denmark SC
USA
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Posted - Feb 10 2013 :  2:20:23 PM  Show Profile  Send Katlady93 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
i love my homemade soap. i used Fels as that is what i found. and i do the vinegar rinse. so far i am very pleased with it.

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countrymommy85
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Krystle
Polson MT
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Posted - Feb 10 2013 :  3:38:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Has anyone noticed a difference in Fels lately? I just picked up a new bar last week and it was really soft just like the Zote! Have they changed the formula so its not a hard bar anymore or should I contact the company because maybe something was wrong with it?

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Katlady93
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Charlotte
Denmark SC
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Posted - Feb 11 2013 :  12:11:48 PM  Show Profile  Send Katlady93 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
i have only bought three bars of Fels, but i wouldn't call them soft by any means.

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Annie S
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Annie
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Posted - Feb 17 2013 :  12:18:46 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've experienced both hard and soft with the Fels myself over the years. Don't know if they've changed the formula or what. But after what Amy said about it, I think I'll switch to Zote. Only problem is I can't find it down here where I live, so will have to order from Amazon.
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Rosemary
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Posted - Feb 17 2013 :  2:55:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Soft-versus-hard Fels bars has more to do with storage than ingredients, I think. A humid environment makes them softer. Of course, laundry rooms are usually humid. Probably best to store unused bars in a closet somewhere rather than right near the washing machine.
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Amy
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Posted - Feb 18 2013 :  06:36:20 AM  Show Profile  Send MrsRooster a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I unwrap my Zote bars and let them harden up a few days before I grate them. It makes it easier.

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terri
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Posted - Apr 22 2013 :  08:51:02 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have used both Fels and Zote. They both seem to work just as good for me. Now that I have read the info on the Fels, I believe that I am going to stick with zote. I do like the way that the Fels grates. I am going to try leaving out the Zote and see if that helps the grating for me. I like the smell of Zote better. I also alternate between liquid and dry mixes. It all depends on how much time I have to make it. The dry is faster to make, so if I am running short on detergent and short on time, I just make the dry. I have had no issues with the HE Washer at all.
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NJ
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Posted - Apr 22 2013 :  1:38:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I used to use Fels Naptha. The dermatologist recommends Ivory so I use that sometimes. It is not harsh.


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Mary
Glendale WI
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Posted - Apr 23 2013 :  10:09:07 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I use Ivory Soap in my laundry detergent. I have a top loader and will never go back to other kinds of soap- I love it. It cleans beautifully and the smell makes me happy!
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Sharon
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Posted - Aug 04 2013 :  06:55:58 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I used Ivory for over a year and then switched to Fels. I like the smell of it and I've noticed that the clothes come out cleaner with the Fels. I didn't know about the origin of the ingredients so will have to give that a look. Have not seen Zote in the stores here, but will search for it.
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