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*Farmgirl Barter™: Swapping/barter subject that needs to be addressed  |
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laurzgot
True Blue Farmgirl
    
1919 Posts

Laurie
Alvin
Texas
USA
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Posted - Dec 29 2009 : 8:31:14 PM
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Bravo Victoria for writting this post. It brings attention to a problem that needs to be addressed. I'm fairly new to this to. Really love the virtual connection with my farm sisters. I've done several swaps with great rewards on both ends. It does sadden me that some of you have not received yours. If your going to swap/barter please look in your heart and say do I really want to do this, can I follow through and can I afford to do this swap. That's what I do, and if I can't do any of it I just don't sign up for the swap. Simple as that. I do use the tracking # when sending and if you do a swap/barter please keep in touch with the host and swap partner. It's only fair. I also keep track of the swaps I have done. If by chance I forgot someone please e-mail me. Thanks for letting me vent. Hugs, Laurie
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LakeOntarioFarmgirl
True Blue Farmgirl
    
933 Posts
Brenda
North Rose
NY
USA
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Posted - Dec 30 2009 : 04:21:58 AM
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I have been looking for quilt forums to join all fall. I love to quilt, love swaps, and figured it would be good experience for me and make me stretch to improve my skills. I finally did settle on one, but along the way I found forums with swap/barters and all sorts of different rules! One of them is the telephone number thing. One website has a an actual separate page where you can post about how bad or good a swapper is. They are also rated. Now, obiously if you put someone's name out there like that, they are going to disappear for good. Then there's this little questionnaire to fill out on another board: """"Swap name:Friendship Quilt Block Swap member who is organizing this swap: Sign-up date range: Date to send item by:June 30th, 2008
Limited to a certain number of people: 6 including organizer
Restricted to people who all live in the same country? Yes If so, which country? USA
Age requirement? 18 years or older
Swap Organizer himself/herself meets these conditions: - Has fully read the Swap Info Guide: YES - Has successfully completed two swaps as a participant: YES - Is not organizing more than three swaps right now: YES - Will recruit a co-organizer or give all details to a Swap Moderator if this swap has more than 25 participants: YES
Swap Organizer will check each participant to make sure they meet these conditions: - Has been a member for at least one month: YES - Has posted at least 15 times: YES - Has completed one swap successfully before signing up for multiple swaps at a time: YES - Is not currently signed up for more than five swaps: YES - Does not have any negative feedback: YES - Participant has agreed that he/she is at least 18 years old: YES"""""
How about a board of 2 or 3 farmgirls to keep up on how things are going, and be willing to email those who are not doing what they are supposed to?
Brenda FarmGirl # 711
If you rest, you rust. Helen Hayes
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EastTXFarmgirl
True Blue Farmgirl
    
731 Posts
Victoria
Farmgirl #549
TX
USA
731 Posts |
Posted - Dec 30 2009 : 05:30:17 AM
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Kristin I am sure that if you had forgotten anyone you would have received a reminder email by now so I would not worry about it. I have read where many ladies are doing like Michelle. Not sending until received or contacted prior to sending. In theory that works but we had a case in the Apron swap where a farmgirl signed up for 2 partners, made initial contact with both partners but never posted again on the site and did not respond to emails. Both partners emailed me with concerns of sending. The farmgirl was new to the site, had only a couple of previous posts, and on her blog wrote of some very hard times. I encouraged both partners to take a chance and send the aprons. This was the farmgirl's first swap and I really wanted to give her a chance (I figured if she did not return I would be making 2 more apron). They did and both received beautiful aprons in return. So I really don't want to start "profiling". I do think Robin hit on a major contributing factor...too many swaps at once. When I first got on the site I was just amazed at all the swaps and bartering going on. I wanted in them all. My first month I signed up for 4 swaps and about 5 or 6 barters. It kicked my butt! I got them completed in time but I learned a valuable lesson. No more than 2 swaps at a time. Many of the ladies that I received complaints on, for not returning, seemed to be in multiple swaps throughout the forum. I don't know how we can monitor this. I like the questionnaire Brenda, but how would we monitor it? Is it a part of the swap on the other site or is it a seperate area? I know everyone wants to vent because it is so frustrating but lets bring some ideas to the table to help curve this behavior. Does anyone know how we can get some of these "barriers" like the questionnaire or the rating systems in place?
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LakeOntarioFarmgirl
True Blue Farmgirl
    
933 Posts
Brenda
North Rose
NY
USA
933 Posts |
Posted - Dec 30 2009 : 05:47:44 AM
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Victoria- the questionnaire is part of each and every swap that they do, so it looks like maybe each swaps host does it themselves when they first post about the swap.
I know there would definitely have to be a moderator in place, Gabe moderates the barter boards, but I imagine he is so busy, he may want to appoint someone else to moderate the swaps and barters themselves? Or, maybe he would want the hosts to do it themselves. We could pick someone to monitor what's going on, and maybe switch every 6 months or so, so it doesn't get to be too much for one person?
Brenda FarmGirl # 711
If you rest, you rust. Helen Hayes
http://theviewfromhere-brenda.blogspot.com/ |
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LakeOntarioFarmgirl
True Blue Farmgirl
    
933 Posts
Brenda
North Rose
NY
USA
933 Posts |
Posted - Dec 30 2009 : 05:51:54 AM
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Forgot to say- It does make sense to contact your swap partners before sending things out, but this has backfired for me. I had great contact with one swap, and emailed her when I sent out my item. She emailed back saying "yours is going out too" then nothing. This was a month ago. And, this has happened to me in more than one swap! And, I really, really appreciate that in my 2 secret swaps, most of you girls have emailed me to tell me that you received your information, or if you notice that everyone has received theirs and you haven't you let me know right away. I always worry that maybe one of my emails hasn't gone through, so it's good to know this! :)
Brenda FarmGirl # 711
If you rest, you rust. Helen Hayes
http://theviewfromhere-brenda.blogspot.com/ |
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deeredawn
True Blue Farmgirl
    
2306 Posts
Dawn
Cordova
TN
USA
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Posted - Dec 30 2009 : 05:58:03 AM
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Funny I should come across this because I just emailed the farm not too long ago stating concerns. I too, use a "tickler file system". A cheap recipe card box with blank 3x5 cards inside. I write down the sisters name, and info and the date of the swap and what the swap is for. When I send out my package, I highlight it in yellow. When I receive my package I re-highlight in pink. Unfortunately I have many cards still left in yellow. I am trying hard to look at it this way. Evidently the sister that received the swap must've really needed it. She must need the product, or the attention more than I do to be 'forgetful'. I then tell myself that I'm a great person for sending 'product' to her and I hope she enjoys it more than I would've.
I'm so sorry to hear such stories on the board. I think things ebb and flow here. This will fix itself somehow...
Dawn #279 MJ's Heirloom Maven http://www.harvestthymefarm.vpweb.com www.onefunkyfarmgirl.blogspot.com ~I'd rather be on my farm than Emperor of the World~George Washington |
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EastTXFarmgirl
True Blue Farmgirl
    
731 Posts
Victoria
Farmgirl #549
TX
USA
731 Posts |
Posted - Dec 30 2009 : 06:11:25 AM
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I pretty much feel the same as you Dawn. I am hoping that bringing this to the light will fix it. I hate to say it but, I think in these times of computers and high tech, not seeing the person face to face takes some of the sting out when we don't follow through. I am hoping that bringing this issue out in the open will put the feeling back into the process. Hopefully, those that have not or are not following through in swaps and barters will read the stories posted here and realize the frustration and saddness this is causing.
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AuntPammy
True Blue Farmgirl
   
488 Posts

Pamila
williamstown
wv
USA
488 Posts |
Posted - Dec 30 2009 : 06:25:11 AM
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I have been reading this post and wanting to comment. I too have been burnt on some swaps although I have never complained to the host except once on Mail Art and was rightfully put in my place by many saying I should never have complained about not recieving mail Art. I learned my lesson and dropped out. I have been left high and dry on some other swaps but I don't really care as I have fun making the things and enjoy sending them out.It is just a risk that we all have to take and yes, I understand if people get inundated with other things.I would never "Scarlet Letter" anyone for not sending out a swap as many times there are personal and unexpected things that happen in a persons life. I guess I just believe that we all have to look ourselves in the mirror and if you see someone who isn't doing their fair share in the swaps then maybe you should not participate. It all boils down to an honor thing and doing what is right. When I swap I always email before I send out and include my address in the package. When my partner recieves her package then she can send her item to me...I just feel this is fair to my partners and I always have a clear conscience about these swaps. Wow, thanks for letting me vent! I need to lay off the coffee.
"Keep your face to the sunshine and you will never see the shadow." Helen Keller
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yarnmamma
True Blue Farmgirl
    
4247 Posts
Linda
Clarks Summit
PA
USA
4247 Posts |
Posted - Dec 30 2009 : 06:29:16 AM
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I've needed some way of organizing the information for my swaps. The recipe card file is a great idea! I don't want to stop participating because I tend to be late on deadlines....a way of organizing for myself would really help.
I've been on the Farmgirl forum for a few years now and have seen and heard alot....things work themselves out in time and bringing this topic up for discussion is hopefully enough. I don't like the idea of too much formal "organizing"...that's why we used to call the swaps "friendly"...they were not supposed to be rigid or too businesslike. A barter is a business transaction. We could all work on keeping in better contact with our partners while also encouraging the newcomers too.
Linda in Scranton, PA
I see trees of green, red roses too. I see skys of blue, clouds of white and I think to myself...what a wonderful world. Louis Armstrong |
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Roxy7
True Blue Farmgirl
    
1083 Posts
Robin
Denver
CO
USA
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Posted - Dec 30 2009 : 07:17:01 AM
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I dont do piles of swaps, but when I do I write all the info on a big sticky with names and dates to mail and other tidbits of info. I stick it where I see it everyday. Most of the time I am so excited that I start on it right away anyways!
On a side note, I think we should have a thread somewhere , that members can post little bits of info about themselves, like things they collect, movies they like....so that when you have a secret swap, your swapper can look up random things that may make you smile. I feel like such a stalker when I go back through a persons posts to find out more about what they might like. Would anyone want to do this? |
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Autumn Leaves
True Blue Farmgirl
   
463 Posts
Jennifer
Northern
California
USA
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Posted - Dec 30 2009 : 07:55:40 AM
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I have only been left without on this last Secret Santa swap and one barter since I joined in August or September. I have given up on the barter, you feel weird emailing them about it more than about once. With barters it's simple, don't do it if you don't intend to follow through because the other person is wanting to trade something for their item or they wouldn't have offered it as a barter. The "secret swaps" to me anyways are so much fun sending that I for one would be ok with just a simple letter or card from my partner saying that there was a problem. I understand life happens but, surely think a person could at least contact somebody in the case of a circumstance that they we unable to complete their end of the swap. I guess I'm saying some contact whatever it might be is way better than a complete no show. Now I sent my secret santa gift out and got an email from her thanking me but, she never posted here that it was received. In that case it would be very hard for the hostess to keep track of who got what from whom. I respect all of you especially the hostesses for tackling this issue and I feel whatever you decide to do I'm behind you. I for one really appreciate all the time and work that you do to organize these. Hopefully the non-follow throughers will rethink their choices because the swaps are tons of fun when everyone does what they are supposed to.
Warm Wishes Jennifer
Never let yesterday use up too much of today - Will Rogers http://jenscountrylife.blogspot.com |
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CherryPie
True Blue Farmgirl
    
935 Posts
Kimberly Ann
Puyallup
WA
USA
935 Posts |
Posted - Dec 30 2009 : 08:21:10 AM
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I agree, Jennifer. It is weird sending multiple emails. It has made me really uncomfortable and frankly I feel used when I hurry to send something out months ago and I still haven't received an item, let alone even emails to keep me posted. I don't want to give up on barters but it does make me stop and think about it.
Kimberly Ann Farmgirl Sister #225 Crochet Geek, Newbie Fiddler, Would-be Farmer, Backyard Chicken Rancher, Soon to Be Podcaster http://beesinourbonnetsintheburbs.blogspot.com/ Podcasts at http://thefannyfarm.blogspot.com/ |
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EastTXFarmgirl
True Blue Farmgirl
    
731 Posts
Victoria
Farmgirl #549
TX
USA
731 Posts |
Posted - Dec 30 2009 : 10:52:09 AM
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I have to ask CherryPie what is a Podcaster? I know that is completely off the subject, just curious.
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khartquilt
True Blue Farmgirl
    
1176 Posts

USA
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Posted - Dec 30 2009 : 12:06:03 PM
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Victoria, Thank you for starting this topic. I had made a comment once a while ago and received a cyber slap in the face. I almost dropped out of the forum. I feel you need to read these comments a few times before responding. Because, I feel, we are just stating our opinions and concerns. We don’t really mean to hurt any feeling. I guess you could say we are just venting.
I have participated in a number of swaps and a few barters. Then I hosted some swaps. I have been singed in both. Am I perfect? Absolutely not. I have been a little late with sending things out too, but, I always try to keep my partner informed. That is the most important thing. And yes, things do get lost in the mail. I have sent out an item twice. And the second item gets to the recipient with in the week. The first item is them received the next week. Jokingly we think that the postal worker wanted the yo-yos or charms. And yes life happens too. I understand. Or at least I try to. But since we do not live next-door, we sometimes have our doubts. I keep a book of almost all who have participated in my swaps. I have notes under the names that were late and or dropped out without a word. There were a few swaps I seen that I would have loved to join but I just wouldn’t because of one or two of the participants. I am afraid that they will not follow through and either drop out or be extremely late.
All of us that do participate in swaps or barters need to take a moment before we agree to participate. I know it’s a lot of fun. But we need to think about what is going on in our lives. Do we truly have the time and in some cases, the money. We need to be considerate to our partner or group and the host. We need to not take on more then we personally can handle.
Here are my ideas on how to run or handle a swap or barter.
Barter: If you have an item you wish to barter. Make sure you receive your payment before sending out your item. If you are requesting an item, send your payment out right away. Pay the extra cost of tracking. Track your payment and notify the barter that she should have received it. (Payment is what you were to receive or give for the item that was posted for barter)
Swaps: I think all group swaps should be centralized. Meaning, the group sends all items to the swap mama. I feel this will cost us all less in postage. The swap mama will then sort them and send them to the participants. The swap mama puts a strike due date. If items are not in on time, the swap mama can them either sort out what she has or ask the group if they are willing to wait one more week.
Brenda, I too am in a number of other outside groups that swaps mostly quilt blocks or charms. And they have strict rules. The first swap I was in with the bigger group, I had to have my items done and mailed a week before they were due. I have never been burnt in that group. Rules are rules and if you don’t follow them, then you can’t participate again.
Well, these were my thoughts. And again, they are not meant to hurt anyone’s feeling.
Kathy H Farmgirl Sister #81 "To the world you may be one person, but to one person you may be the world..." (anomymous) http://khartquilt.blogspot.com |
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CherryPie
True Blue Farmgirl
    
935 Posts
Kimberly Ann
Puyallup
WA
USA
935 Posts |
Posted - Dec 30 2009 : 12:06:27 PM
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It's an audio blog. :-) I talk about stuff going around my place, my critters, life in general - just whatever strikes my fancy. Then I publish it to iTunes. It's a lot of fun, if only to me! lol
Kimberly Ann Farmgirl Sister #225 Crochet Geek, Newbie Fiddler, Would-be Farmer, Backyard Chicken Rancher, Soon to Be Podcaster http://beesinourbonnetsintheburbs.blogspot.com/ Podcasts at http://thefannyfarm.blogspot.com/ |
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ZenGoddess
True Blue Farmgirl
    
613 Posts
Cindy
MO
USA
613 Posts |
Posted - Dec 30 2009 : 12:07:17 PM
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What about this... on our profile page it could show how many swaps we are in current how many completed and how many Overdue & Overdue by 30 days Then if you are swapping or bartering with someone you can check the profile page and politely decline the request to trade with them, if you wish to. Most of us go to that page to send the initial e-mail to the sister anyhow. Swap Moma's would have to check them out also and deal with it much the same way. I am editing this because Cherry Pie has a good idea for the swaps - then if you don't send in - you just don't recieve. Very good!! Hugs, ZenGoddess/Southernplum My life goal is to Simply - Simplify my life. http://herbalcottage.blogspot.com http://herbalcottage.etsy.com |
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ZenGoddess
True Blue Farmgirl
    
613 Posts
Cindy
MO
USA
613 Posts |
Posted - Dec 30 2009 : 12:17:48 PM
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In the Christmas dolly swap, I liked the fact that it was posted when "recieved & when sent, by each involved. I personally felt "good" that everyone sent and everyone recieved, it was a sense of accomplishment as a group! Thanks Swap Moma, Ya did Good! Being late is very forgivable, not gettin it done at all is just not farmgirl style!
Hugs, ZenGoddess/Southernplum My life goal is to Simply - Simplify my life. http://herbalcottage.blogspot.com http://herbalcottage.etsy.com |
Edited by - ZenGoddess on Dec 30 2009 12:26:36 PM |
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yarnmamma
True Blue Farmgirl
    
4247 Posts
Linda
Clarks Summit
PA
USA
4247 Posts |
Posted - Dec 30 2009 : 12:27:58 PM
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I believe some of the suggestions made would be major changes in the friendly and fun swaps. I would hate to see that we have "report card" type of tracking. I have used ebay alot and I know how it works but that is business. The farmgirl swapping is more casual and in friendship or sisterhood. I would rather have someone, the swap mamma or someone who volunteers, send the article to a sister who didn't receive. I have watched and participated in many swaps over the years I have been a farmgirl and that is what is done. We have made extra things to gift to someonewho is sick or to Maryjane also. I would like to see us keep doing that if it is a new gal who wants to join us or even if she is inexperienced. The largest value of article I have swapped is a doll and I have made and traded dolls with 2 individual sisters and also in 2 different group dolly swaps. One time it took months for my partner to get it to me and I just waited..it was worth it. I believe Banishment judgement should be avoided....and a muck list sounds like a sh** list...and I would never want a farmgirl sister to be treated that way.
I am glad we are having this topic...a very good discussion and all opinions are being valued. If the swaps got too businesslike I'd stop doing them because I appreciate the sweet patience we have with the older and sickly retired sisters (like me).
Linda in Scranton, PA
I see trees of green and red roses too...skys of blue and clouds of white, and I think to myself...what a wonderful world. Louis Armstrong |
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EastTXFarmgirl
True Blue Farmgirl
    
731 Posts
Victoria
Farmgirl #549
TX
USA
731 Posts |
Posted - Dec 30 2009 : 12:54:41 PM
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Linda don't get upset but I could not disagree more. Patience is one thing but being taken advantage of is quiet another. I don't think anyone here is talking about the occassional late swap. I was late in a barter that I had going with Nadine. I was making lip balm for her and caught the flu. I did not think it was a very nice thing to package up a good old case of flu and send it to her to rub all over her lips. I emailed her explained and even though I felt very bad she was most understanding. Those things happen. But there are a few and I do mean a few that are getting into the swaps knowing that they will not or can not complete their end. I know this sounds ugly but in some ways it seems they are in just to get not to give. If you will look through the past several months and read the posts it is the same few in swap after swap that does not follow through. No this is not a business but even in face to face friendships there has to be a certain amount of give and take. You can not tell me that if you had a friend that continually took and never gave back that you would stay friends for a long time. That is what friendship is. Being there for each other. Not, me being there for you and you leave me high and dry everytime I need you. I do not think the swap mama should be responsible for gifting to someone other than her partner. She is there to get the names matched and try to keep the swap on track but not to fill in everytime someone does not follow through. I would have had to make about 6 aprons and cover postage. That is not fair to the swap mama. We are adults and adults take care of their commitments. I am not saying that there is any one right answer. I, for one, would love for all the swaps to run without a hitch and everyone get everything they want but that is not happening.
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Edited by - EastTXFarmgirl on Dec 30 2009 12:58:34 PM |
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yarnmamma
True Blue Farmgirl
    
4247 Posts
Linda
Clarks Summit
PA
USA
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Posted - Dec 30 2009 : 2:44:15 PM
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I thought muck is another word for manure....if so then I don't like it at all. I could have been more responsible myself with the deadlines. Of course I wasn't aware that ya had that many problems. An occasional problem once in awhile is different. There probably are too many gals that I don't know who are doing that. We should really get to know someone or have them referred by someone we trust before we agree to swap as partner or to barter with. And yes, that's a good point about a friend expecting without giving...it that depends where ya draw the line or the circumstances.
Linda in Scranton, PA
I see trees of green and red roses too...skys of blue and clouds of white, and I think to myself...what a wonderful world. Louis Armstrong |
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lilwing
True Blue Farmgirl
    
1403 Posts
Brooke
Fulshear
Texas
USA
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Posted - Dec 30 2009 : 3:06:05 PM
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I can understand about letting it go and thinking .. Well, I did a good thing.. and not letting it get to me... but it is very sad when you were REALLY looking forward to what you were getting in the barter and it never comes...even though you held up your end of the deal.... it's very sad.
I am still waiting for mine and we started it back in May, I believe, I am being patient with her... she responds to me from time to time....maybe twice now... I sent her a Merry Christmas note ...what else can I do ....Otherwise, every other swap has been great.
~~~~ Proud Farmgirl #775
http://maggielousdaughter.blogspot.com (in construction!)
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Claude09647
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761 Posts
Claudia
Our Dairy Farm
Pennsylvania
USA
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Posted - Dec 30 2009 : 3:20:03 PM
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i can agree with you on this issue. I have gotten burnt too. I have posted something on here too awhile ago about getting burnt on barters. I have forgotten a few and i'm so glad you e-mailed me today and i will get that out to you asap! But along with the whole not getting things in return, i know people forget and its an honest mistake, better to get it late than not at all, but my philosophy is to just keep in contact with that person and make it known that you have not forgotten! I have burnt on so many barters and i kept my end of the barters. If i have ever forgotten about a barter, i hope that person would e-mail me and remind me because i know what its like to ship something off and get nothing in return. Turns you of to the idea but i still really do enjoy bartering!
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gramadinah
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3557 Posts

Diana
Orofino
ID
USA
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Posted - Dec 30 2009 : 6:04:41 PM
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I have been burnt 2 times I know who they are and if I am chosen to swap with the person that burnt me I will not swap with them. I also keep a folder of all my swaps and when I mail and when I recieve. The other thing is I never enter into a swap that I know I will have a hard time making it to due date and I never get involve in more than 3 at a time. But for the most part I an anal and I love to be doing things I Don't wear aprons and I have swaped for half a dozen but I love to make them and pass them on. So yes I do regift some of the swaps I have done but I do not take credit for the item if it is an apron or what ever I will add a note that it was made by ----.
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SheilaC
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1948 Posts
Sheila
Vermont
USA
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Posted - Dec 30 2009 : 6:25:19 PM
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| what about rather than a "fail to return" list to rather have a place for good feedback--to leave for those with whom you've had a great swap? |
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katmom
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Grace
WACAL Gal
WashCalif.
USA
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Posted - Dec 30 2009 : 8:56:53 PM
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In a perfect world and a perfect forum, we would not have to deal with this topic....but alas, not everyone plays nice! I use to eagerly join swaps, like a lot of you, kept a Chart, to check off, sent, received, etc. I have been burned several times....by 'sisters' who stayed in touch till they received their items...all the while I got Bupkis... Am I angry, I was, but moved on. I have also been in swaps where "life got in the way of life" and my swap partners had to be late. But they stayed in contact with me all the while till I received my goodies. I belong to several other internet groups and this topic is not isolated to just the MJF Forum....sadly it happens to all groups. I think it has been correctly said that sometimes ladies join in the barters with the best of intentions but get in over their heads and so they make up tons of excuses or drop off the radar. My philosophy is, to not get twitterpated over it....I stay clear of swaps that have certain people on the list that I have had a negative experience with. I think realisticly it is not the MJF forums responsibility to "monitor" the swaps as the swaps are initiated by members. I also think it would be a daunting task to keep a "running" list of offenders. The last thing I want to see is a MJF sister get maligned because she had not been able to fulfill her end of a swap because something unexpected came up in her life. But if it happens more than once, I think this sister needs to really soul search, "can I really afford to do this(both money & time)" or should I pass on it. Hopefully she will make the right decision. As for the Swap Mama's job...and having been one, I can tell you,,,,,it's easier said than done!.... So what do we do? I wish I had the answer, like I said, in a perfect world....but please lets not beat a dead horse! Simply said, if you sign up for a swap/barter....FOLLOW THROUGH! Ok, now someone give me some chocolate...and no one gets hurt! lol!
>^..^< Happiness is being a katmom. "I've never met a sewing machine I didn't like!"
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