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Old Spirit
True Blue Farmgirl
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Rae
MN
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 Posted - May 20 2010 : 04:47:10 AM
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Judges 4-5
Deborah, what a woman. The first woman judge of Israel and to top it off gave all the credit to God. When most would take credit for the work done she sang praises to God!!!
Rae
Farm Girl #647
...those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles:...
Isaiah 40:31
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classygram
True Blue Farmgirl
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Brenda
Pleasant Hill
Mo.
USA
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Posted - May 20 2010 : 2:05:40 PM
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Isn't it a real blessing to read of her determination and singing phrase's to the Lord. Can't you just see her, dancing around and her lovely voice reaching up to the Lord. Quit a vision.
Brenda
"What lies behind us, and what lies before us are small matter compared to what lies within us."
Ralph Waldo Emerson
Seek reasons to Love..In every sigment of everyday-look for something that brings forth within you a feeling of Love-Abraham Hicks |
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Bear5
True Blue Farmgirl
13055 Posts
Louisiana/Texas
USA
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Posted - May 20 2010 : 5:47:09 PM
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Deborah was one of the five women in the Bible referred to as a prophet. At that time, she was assertive (in her own way) in a man's world. I really enjoyed the reading of Judges 4-5.
Marly
"It's only when we truly know and understand that we have a limited time on earth- and that we have no way of knowing when our time is up- that we will begin to live each day to the fullest, as if it was the only one we had." Elisabeth Kurler-Ross |
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julia hayes
True Blue Farmgirl
1132 Posts
julia
medical lake
wa
USA
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Posted - May 21 2010 : 12:38:34 PM
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Brutal.
I'm not sure what I'm supposed to learn from this. Who are the righteous ones? Who are the enemies? Help...I find these murderous stories so so so very hard.
Deborah as a prophet and a judge? I have to wonder what the original words were and how this translation came to be and what it means exactly. What was the purpose of people judging other people? What was her purpose in that regard?
I find the writing, in particular, challenging in a very, forgive me, boring and distracted kind of what. So and so brother of so and so...so and so wife of so and so son of such and such..Heaven help me, I can't keep it all straight!
Rae, would you or someone please re-tell me this story and tell me what 'the moral of the story is?" Seriously, I'm not a complete moron, but darn close! 
~julia hayes
being simple to simply be
Farmgirl #30
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Old Spirit
True Blue Farmgirl
1509 Posts
Rae
MN
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Posted - May 21 2010 : 5:19:56 PM
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Oh Julia don't feel bad I have a hard time with some stories especially the Old Testament. My preference is the New Testament as I feel the stories really show love. I know it is there in the Old one but at such a different level. Much more punishment type things talked about. I will re-read and see if I can help at all.
Rae
Farm Girl #647
...those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles:...
Isaiah 40:31
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staci860
True Blue Farmgirl
838 Posts
Staci
Newville
PA
USA
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Posted - May 21 2010 : 5:21:37 PM
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Ok, here goes...
I think this story is pretty straightforward but I'll give it a shot.
This is during the time period after Joshua and the other elders had died and before the monarchy was established. Judges were set up pretty much for the use we have today - to settle disputes. Deborah had proven her wisdom through prophecy and was leading/judging at that time. God told her how to defeat the Canaanites who were rising up against the Israelites to retake Cana. He told her to send Barak, who lacked faith and basically wienied out. She led, they listened and were victorious. Because Barak didn't do what God/she instucted, He (God) delivered Sisera into the hands of Jael and she killed him with what she had on hand.
Now for the challenging part....to try to answer Julia's more specific questions/comments.
The righteous ones are those who love the Lord; the enemies in this account were those warring against God and His people. And what you consider/describe as murderous they considered self-defense.
Deborah as prophet/judge - see above.
You might find the reading boring because it is history and the telling of who's who and who did what is often "boring" in history texts. Which is primarily what the OT is - a history book.
Moral of the story: The whole book of Judges really shows how God's Spirit enabled men to accomplish feats of victory in the Lord's holy war against the powers that threatened His kingdom.
Julia, as a non-believer, I don't know that you will ever get a complete grasp of the Bible. The scriptures say in 1 Corinthians 2:14-16 "The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. The spiritual man makes judgements about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgement: "For who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him?" But we have the mind of Christ.'
Blessings, staci FG# 973
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Joshua 24:15 - ...choose this day whom you will serve,...as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.
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staci860
True Blue Farmgirl
838 Posts
Staci
Newville
PA
USA
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Posted - May 21 2010 : 5:24:51 PM
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Oh, and I think God really loved and valued women.  Just think approx. 3000 years ago a woman was leading Israel! She loved the Lord, she listened to His voice, she trusted and obeyed.
And we talk about her still.
Blessings, staci FG# 973
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Joshua 24:15 - ...choose this day whom you will serve,...as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.
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jpbluesky
True Blue Farmgirl
6066 Posts
Jeannie
Florida
USA
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Posted - May 21 2010 : 6:28:16 PM
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I went to my book on women of the bible, and it read: Deborah, God's prophethess and judge left a legacy of justice as she solved the people's problems, made wise decisions, courageously accompanied the troops in battle, motivated others to action, and inspired the people to follow God. Christian women today are challenged to leave a legacy of just leadership that always follows God's directions.
Deborah brought to the people God's message that He would lead them in victory. She played an important role in leading the people back to God. This is the message we can take away and use today, which is what we pray we can do as we read these stories.
The name Deborah means "bee" in Hebrew.
Farmgirl Sister # 31
www.blueskyjeannie.blogspot.com
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staci860
True Blue Farmgirl
838 Posts
Staci
Newville
PA
USA
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Posted - May 22 2010 : 06:02:35 AM
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Jeannie - that's a perfect way to say what I was rambling about above - the lesson of Deborah. Thanks!
Blessings, staci FG# 973
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Joshua 24:15 - ...choose this day whom you will serve,...as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.
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Old Spirit
True Blue Farmgirl
1509 Posts
Rae
MN
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Posted - May 22 2010 : 06:15:29 AM
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Well these ladies explained things much better than I could have!
The Old Testament can be brutal with all that was going on. In the new because of Christ we have forgiveness and do not need to sacrifice things as they did then, Christ is the sacrifice for us. It can all be overwhelming. I have read the Bible and still as I re-read some things just blow me away and I see it differently as I study deeper. My brain is able to absorb more depth the more I study and read, but that is me.
Rae
Farm Girl #647
...those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles:...
Isaiah 40:31
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cgonyer
True Blue Farmgirl
220 Posts
Cindy
Petersburg
MI
USA
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Posted - May 22 2010 : 07:10:05 AM
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Wow, what a joy it is to read some of these responses. I'm a little behind in my readings so I can't contribute at the moment, but thank you for all of the comments. They are very enlightening and I love reading them!
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kristin sherrill
True Blue Farmgirl
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kristin
chickamauga
ga
USA
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Posted - May 22 2010 : 07:33:06 AM
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Thank you all for the explanations. I get confused too when I read the Bible. It helps to have a concordance handy. But I guess we are so much like all these people befroe us. The same things are going on today but I think much worse. And as a woman I find it fascinating that God would entrust a whole country to a woman. She had to have been very wise for men to lesten to her.
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julia hayes
True Blue Farmgirl
1132 Posts
julia
medical lake
wa
USA
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Posted - May 22 2010 : 4:06:29 PM
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Heaven help me! I didn't mean to write a dissertation!
You know, I think I finally figured out what it is about the Old Testament that is a lot like having a small pebble stuck in my shoe.
Right or wrong, these stories are to me an attempt at explaining what is happening in the world and why by an ancient people. They viewed all of life's events as subject to God's will. Bad things happened because people behaved badly and good things happened because God was well pleased.
I don't think I'll ever be able to view it that way (hence why I call myself a non-believer) but it doesn't mean that lessons can't be gleaned from these ancient stories. Nor does it mean that they didn't happen. I'm quite sure that many if not most of these stories happened in some way or another. I believe this because they have lasted for so long. This is the magic of the oral tradition that finally finds preservation in ink and papyrus. This is why the Old Testament is so very sacred! It is also why these stories still persist in our consciousness sometimes for the elevation of humankind and other times to its demise.
But more on that later. Let me see if I can take a 'stab' at this story!
This story begins by letting us know that God was unhappy with the people of Israel and so he punished them by enslaving them under the King of Canaan for 20 years. As far as I'm concerned we know virtually nothing about Deborah. She is given a mere mention. Staci you said how God so loves women to have entrusted her with such a position so long ago. I don't think it's ever been an issue of God's love for women. It has always been an issue of men, however. It cannot be ignore than men were the scribes and interpreters of these ancient texts, as well as the only ones worthy to study them for centuries and so it is no wonder that so powerful of a woman was not, as far as I'm concerned, given her due.
Still, Deborah was clearly a powerful woman--a wise woman, a sage. I think it a shame that nothing from the oral tradition was preserved in the telling of what exactly Deborah did. What kind of wise wisdom and judgment--specifics-- she lent. There must have been amazing stories to have earned her so high a position and so great the respect from others. So powerful a woman ought to have been granted a few more lines!
Still, as the story goes it seems to me she was a grassroots organizer. She solicited the help of a man name Barak to gather the oppressed people for an uprising. Clearly, the people of Israel after 20 years had had enough! 10 thousand men were called into action and she joined them. She told Barak that she would lead Sisera, who by today's standards would probably be a 4 star general, of the King's oppressive army out to Barak and his men by a nearby river. We have no idea how she planned to do this, however, and I for one would love to know. She predicts, she sees psychically, that Sisera will fall at the hands of another woman. She believes this to be God's desire to end their power and thus the enslavement of the people of Israel.
Our attention is then fascinatingly shifted from war plans to a lone married man, Heber, who separated himself from his tribe of people and not just any people; the sons of Hobab who was the father-in-law of Moses! Heavens what kind of family politics was happening there? Were the in-laws just too much? Were they dropping Moses' name right and left and leeching off his fame? I don't mean any disrespect here at all. I'm just curious what on earth happened to this man that he would leave the safety and culture of his own people! I'm so curious and he sounds like an incredibly interesting character. Alas, all we know is that he had a single tent pitch near the very town where Deborah, Barak, and the peoples' uprising was gathered.
Next we learn that Sisera heard about their plan. We don't know how. No names or hints of spies were given as far as I can tell. Judges 4:12 simply states, "Then they told Sisera that Barak had gone up the mountain." As far as I can tell, we don't know who 'they' is or how that finely laid plan got spoiled. No matter, Deborah was in charge and rallied the men. Barak did not lack faith and fail. Rather he, with Deborah and their peoples' army were victorious!
Clearly Sisera was totally out-numbered. 900 chariots and men to 10 thousand poor but angry oppressed people. Wow! No one was spared except for Sisera who we learn chickened out and fled! He apparently knew of Heber's tent and went there. We are assured that this man, Heber, and the King were in peaceful accord.
Nothing could prepare us for the betrayal about to unfold!
Heber's wife, Jael, meets Sisera and welcomes him into their tent. We have no idea where Heber is. There is no mention of him. In Judges 4:18 Jael says, "Turn aside, my master, turn aside to me! Do not be afraid" And he turned aside to her in the tent, and she covered him with a rug." This line makes me desperate to learn Hebrew or Greek! I'm dying to know what the real words were. This "turn aside" business is so weird. My hunch is that because Heber was nowhere to be found and cultural rules of that time would never have allowed a married woman to invite another man into the home without her husband present, Jael said"turn aside" to mean something like, "Throw the rule book and etiquette into a camel dung pile! Hurry up and get in here and I'll hide you!"
Here's where it gets shocking and grizzly!
Sisera is worn out. He's run God knows how far. I'm guessing far and in the hot hot sun scared to death and freaked out that his entire army has just perished. He's laying there feeling comforted and secure. He asks for water and she gives him precious milk instead. Does this foreshadow a last meal? Sisera instructs her to tell no one that he's there. He tells her to lie to anyone who asks if there's someone in her tent.
Then Jael does something completely stunning. Staci you mentioned that she killed Sisera with what she had on hand. I laughed when I read that. She grabbed a tent stake and a hammer and while Sisera was sleeping, she hammered that stake through his head! She hammered so hard that the stake went straight through his temple and into the ground!
I nearly vomited at the image so gruesome it must have been.
Barak shows up again Judges 4:22 with Jael meeting him and leading him to the tent where the man lay dead. Clearly having the general and the entire army no longer in the way, the peoples' uprising continued their offensive and eventually killed the King too.
Judges 5 is a song. It reminds me of the song "Ring around the rosey..a pocket full of posey..ashes...ashes...we all fall down." This was a children's song that was sung during one of the great plagues where people were infected and had great sores (ring around the rosey) that were pus filled and oozing (pocket full of posey). Scores and scores of people died and were burned in great piles in the town square. (ashes ashes we all fall down). This song basically commerates and celebrates this great battle and victory but it embellishes a little what happens in Judges 4. For example; Judges 5:25 the song is honoring Jael and what she did for the cause. "He asked for water and she gave him milk; In a magnificent bow she brought him curds." No where is that in Judges 4! It could be an omission from that telling and the song is a truer rendition or it is added for emphasis. We don't know. Furthermore, in Judges 5:27 here is the killing of Sisera and how he died. It reads, "Between her feet he bowed, he fell, he lay; Between her feet he bowed, he fell; Where he bowed, there he fell dead. In Judges 4 Sisera is never standing to then bow and fall. He is sleeping and Jael sneaks up on him and slays him while he sleeps.
The story ends with praise to God. The people of Israel have won because they have turned from their previous wicked ways and have returned to God. They live in prosperity for 40 years until Judges 6 where they are again oppressed by Midian!
Holy Moly! what a story!
Deborah and Jael and warriors. They are leaders.
There are many lessons here. I'm still thinking about them and will post my thoughts later.
In terms of these women, Jeannie, I very much appreciated what you said when you mentioned them leaving a legacy of leadership and trust in God. I'll give that more thought.
Staci your comment to me:
"Julia, as a non-believer, I don't know that you will ever get a complete grasp of the Bible. The scriptures say in 1 Corinthians 2:14-16 "The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. The spiritual man makes judgements about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgement: "For who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him?" But we have the mind of Christ.'"
hurt my feelings. But please trust me, I know it wasn't your intention to do so. No harm has been done! Your quote from Paul's first letter to the Corinthians is an impassioned one and reminds me of a rebuttle book. Whenever anyone says that the Bible is a difficult read, refer to this passage! It hurts because it presumes that I am without Spirit and this I find misleading and untrue. It furthermore implies that only believers are filled with Spirit and can 'get' scripture. It begs the question therefore what does it mean to believe?
Staci, I have no doubt in my mind that you and I could sit on a blanket in my backyard drinking lemonade (I like strawberries and champagne in mine!) eating delicious pie and have the most mouth-watering conversations about spiritual matters. There's no question that believer and non-believer would be rendered irrelevant! So in your well intentioned attempt to encourage me and explain why scripture will remain cloudy you unknowingly assumed much.
My dear Sisters, Spirit is within us all. It is infinite in it's presentation. The mere attempt to explain it, lessens it. It is therefore up to us like the warrior leaders of Deborah and Jael to behold strength and wisdom and carry it to the trials that we all face today. But I think we could do with a little less murder and mayhem! We are one spirit in God who is infinite. Are we not?
~julia hayes
being simple to simply be
Farmgirl #30
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Old Spirit
True Blue Farmgirl
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Rae
MN
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Posted - May 22 2010 : 4:23:56 PM
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Julia I just love to read what you say. You do make me stop and think about things and how to present it in a better way for people to hopefully understand. I thank you my dear friend
Now I need to re-read and think!!!
Rae
Farm Girl #647
...those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles:...
Isaiah 40:31
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julia hayes
True Blue Farmgirl
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julia
medical lake
wa
USA
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Posted - May 22 2010 : 4:33:38 PM
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Rae!! Would you come over and have champagne lemonade with me?????!!!! You are such a dear!! I do go on and on!! Your words are cherished and I thank you for them..Seriously, as the saying goes, "If ever you seek shelter, you will always find a warm fire with me." ~julia
being simple to simply be
Farmgirl #30
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knittinchick
True Blue Farmgirl
1854 Posts
Megan
Wisconsin
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Posted - May 22 2010 : 6:04:59 PM
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Julia, I would have to agree with Rae! Though you are a self-proclaimed non-believer, you have such insight that I would never think a non-believer would have!
God's Blessings,
Megan aka Loretta Rae
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prudy
Farmgirl in Training
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Prudence
Springfield
OR
USA
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Posted - May 22 2010 : 6:33:53 PM
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Julia,
The verse Staci was talking about meant that the Holy Spirit opens the hearts of believers to understand in a new way the scriptures. Only someone who accepts Jesus as their Savior accepts too the Holy Spirit. God does not force Himself on anyone. So when a person says I am an unbeliever, that would say to me that you have not chosen to accept the presence of the Holy Spirit that comes after you accept Jesus.
Am I explaining this right? anyone?
farmgirl sister #1528
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jpbluesky
True Blue Farmgirl
6066 Posts
Jeannie
Florida
USA
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Posted - May 22 2010 : 7:13:33 PM
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Julia - wow you have been doing some deep study!!! Loved reading your post. The Word will never disappoint, though it may shock and always make us think. It is not called the living word for nothing! Great dissertation on Deborah.
Believing is a choice. I say that to you because you describe yourself as a non-believer. For years I waited for a great ephiphany, a miracle that would sudddenly mark me a believer, without a doubt. Some folks are lucky enough to have that happen. Most do not. I learned - it is MY choice, the greatest gift God ever gave is the opportunity to believe or not. He allows us to choose Him, to love him and believe. He is not going to make us. So I choose to believe. And it has brought so much peace to me.
Farmgirl Sister # 31
www.blueskyjeannie.blogspot.com
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classygram
True Blue Farmgirl
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Brenda
Pleasant Hill
Mo.
USA
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Posted - May 22 2010 : 7:37:49 PM
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Absolutely Shirley Jean, I can't imagine my days with out the Lord being with me. Like I've said before, I have always believed in God, but was in my 40's before I knew him. He lives within me now. I hear him, see him in so many ways, and feel him within me. Julia I really do enjoy your writings. They do make you think. And that is what he's allowing you to do study, experience, and learn. Knowing that you are the one to make the choice. I feel that you will make the right one for you and you'll know when it is. I enjoy all the postings, so many ways of saying the same thing yet looking at if differently. Rae, thank you so much for getting this started for all of us to share.
Hugs,Brenda
"What lies behind us, and what lies before us are small matter compared to what lies within us."
Ralph Waldo Emerson
Seek reasons to Love..In every sigment of everyday-look for something that brings forth within you a feeling of Love-Abraham Hicks |
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Old Spirit
True Blue Farmgirl
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Rae
MN
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Posted - May 23 2010 : 07:01:17 AM
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And that my dear friends is what God gives us, Free Will.
Rae
Farm Girl #647
...those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles:...
Isaiah 40:31
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julia hayes
True Blue Farmgirl
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julia
medical lake
wa
USA
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Posted - May 23 2010 : 07:31:23 AM
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You know I feel the need to apologize. With my big fat dramatic personality I fear that I can easily usurp the subject matter here. It isn't my intention at all. So please forgive me if any of you feel slighted or annoyed by the inflammatory language I sometimes use that can really stir the pot.
The word non-believer comes to mind. I use it intentionally. I know it stirs the pot. I know people have all kinds of conditioned ideas as to what it means or doesn't mean. All of that is fine but sometimes it can take people 'off' topic and make it about me. UGH! In this case it is the discussion of women in the Bible. Jeannie mentioned a little while ago that we all have our 'beliefs' and encouraged us to stay focused on the women we were discussing. This is good to keep filed away.
That being said, THANK YOU for all your kind words and encouragement. I was telling countryborn that I do NOT have the gift of succinctness! That grace was not bestowed on me at all! So once again, it takes great patience on your part to sift through my work. I am very blessed that you do and then take the time to comment!
I shall be giving some more thought to Prudy's tender comment on the Holy Spirit, declaring Jesus as a personal Lord and Savior as well as studying Paul's letter some more. I am more than a little convinced that Paul and I would have some marvelous discussions about what exactly he means. I'm not convinced that he meant what we now accept as truth. I'm still considering it. In all humility I have to first admit that I may not like it because it doesn't resonate with me personally and at the same time, I have to admit that this could be Paul's opinion and interpretation of what Jesus meant. We don't, afterall, have any direct words from Jesus himself. He never kept a diary. Oh how I wish he would have!
Jeannie, Brenda, and Rae. I will be thinking more deeply about "what it means to Believe." I will also be thinking more deeply about God granting Free will and what that means. These ideas sometimes roll right off our tongues with great ease and comfort. We hardly feel the need to sit with them and dissect them with great care so resounding to our spirit they are. This is what I try to do. I didn't always. I used to believe because I always believed..it was what I was taught...it sounded good and right and I was never challenged. Jeannie you mentioned waiting for a great epiphany and then one day realizing that that is rather irrelevant. I agree. Is an epiphany real only when it's great or can one have small doses of awakening like the light slowly casting a morning glow upon one's slumber? I don't know but it makes me wonder.
I want you all to know how much I enjoy reading your words. Whether they support my own ideas or not doesn't matter in the least! I simply LOVE the dialogue. If any of you would rather write to me personally because the forum is too public, please feel free!
Here's to the farmgirl spirit..it connects us all...it always has and always will. ~julia
being simple to simply be
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prudy
Farmgirl in Training
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Prudence
Springfield
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USA
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Posted - May 23 2010 : 07:53:48 AM
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oh I love that Jeannie said many of us don't have great ephinay's, so true, so true.
That is not the norm and I wonder how many of those are contrived? God speaks in the still small voice, yet we see his awesome glory in how He created mountains, the oceans, the secret life of the deep deep oceans. It makes me stand in awe and wonder!
And so much more so when we look at the world a changed heart, a change only Jesus inside could bring. 
farmgirl sister #1528
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julia hayes
True Blue Farmgirl
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julia
medical lake
wa
USA
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Posted - May 23 2010 : 08:58:36 AM
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Prudy, what you said, "...a change only Jesus inside could bring" is absolutely beautiful and profound. Thank you for saying it. I love that this is your view and your truth. It speaks volumes in such a gentle way. 'Jesus inside'. Yes, I shall be carrying that with me all day like a warm ember. ~julia
ps HEY! I can write short posts! There's a first for everything!!!
being simple to simply be
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nubidane
True Blue Farmgirl
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Lisa
Georgetown
OH
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Posted - May 23 2010 : 10:07:07 AM
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I think what made me a believer were the ways in which I see God at work in my life. What some may label as coincidence, I finally came to realize as divine presence. Coincidence only goes so far.
& Julia, I love reading your posts as well. It makes me want to pick up my Bible..Which I need to do
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julia hayes
True Blue Farmgirl
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julia
medical lake
wa
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Posted - May 23 2010 : 10:42:33 AM
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Lisa! you are a dear!
Here's a thought: What if God isn't a separate entity? Hence that God is working through me to get to you...What if what is you and what is me is God?
this was the thought that came to mind when I read your post...I would agree with you wholeheartedly about coincidence...What is Divine often requires eyes that don't see and ears that don't hear....
Oh drats..there I go again. SO NOT on the topic of Women of the Bible! Somebody slap me! ~julia
being simple to simply be
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Family Matters: Bible Study #1- Women of the Bible |
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Bible Study #1- Women of the Bible
