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kristin sherrill
True Blue Farmgirl

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kristin
chickamauga ga
USA
11303 Posts

Posted - Jun 22 2010 :  06:38:42 AM  Show Profile
Yesterday I found the cutest little kitten in my husband's jacket on his motorcycle. It was grey and fluffy. And very hungry. I fed it and gave it some warm goat milk. It was in the cat room so I thought it would be ok. I had it inside for a few minutes and Bubba was looking at it. He had a wierd look in his eyes. No expression at all. No tail wagging. Just this wierd look. So I took it back out.

Well, this morning I was telling Kansas I had found a kitten and it was in the cat room. She went out and looked and didn't see it or hear it. So I went and looked. Nothing. I was in the dining room and looked out the window and saw something in the driveway. It was the poor little kitten. Dead. Bubba must of gotten it during the night and killed it. I don't know if he was wanting to play or what. But I really don't think so. I think he wanted to kill it. He is really viscious with other animals. He has tried to kill other dogs that have come in the yard. And that yellow cat he almost killed too. My daughter can't bring her dog Daisy here or he just goes crazy.

So now I just don't know what to do with him. He's good around people. He does bark at strangers which is a good thing. But still scary.

He's a yellow lab mix. I remember the last yellow lab we had years ago. He was very protective. We went on vacation and the people across the street fed him. He was tied in the front yard and she brought her little girl with her one day with their black lab female that was in heat. Well, Cooper went crazy trying to get to the dog and bit the little girl on the face a few times. So when we got home he was gone. They had to call the pound because the little girl had to go to the hospital. He had to be put down. So is it just this breed of dog? I don't know. I just love him. But I can't trust him now.

Thanks for listening. And if anyone has advice, I could use it right now. I am just so sad.

Kris

Happiness is simple.

farmmilkmama
True Blue Farmgirl

2027 Posts

Amy
Central MN
USA
2027 Posts

Posted - Jun 22 2010 :  06:46:34 AM  Show Profile
I'm sorry to hear about the poor little kitten. One of the four dogs we have right now is a yellow lab mix and he's never killed anything...but we DID have one several years ago that did kill a bunch of kittens. So I don't know that it has anything to do with breed, but more to do with the individual dog. Its great that he's good with people, but if he can't be trusted around other animals, that would be a big issue!! How long have you had Bubba? Has he always acted like this?

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kristin sherrill
True Blue Farmgirl

11303 Posts

kristin
chickamauga ga
USA
11303 Posts

Posted - Jun 22 2010 :  06:57:33 AM  Show Profile
I got him when he was just about 3 months old. I have spent lots of money on this dog, too. He got real sick that first summer and was in the hospital a few times. I just think he doesn't like the heat. Then I had him neatured. He's 3 1/2 now. Even when I had to take him to the vet I'd have to keep him outside til it was his turn. He's great with all my 6 cats and the 2 Rat terriers. But any other animal better watch out. My niece brought her 2 dogs up for Thanksgiving a few years ago. A Great Dane female and a Corgi female. I thought he was going to go through the window to get to them. It was awful. But her boyfriend had trained police dogs so took him and the Dane to the garage and I don't know what he did but after that they were best buds.

I guess living way out here and he's just with my animals, he never sees other animals. And so when he does he gets way too excited and doesn't know what to do. There has been a few times a dog had walked down the road and he's jumped the fence and ran after it. There is a dog up the road that he would actually jump the fence and they would play a few minutes.

Kris

Happiness is simple.
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sherrye
True Blue Farmgirl

3775 Posts

sherry
bend in the high desert oregon
USA
3775 Posts

Posted - Jun 22 2010 :  07:37:58 AM  Show Profile
top of the morning to you. i am sorry bubba is a challenge. i think i remember you sharing about him last fall. you had concerns then. i have a rescue female that i watch closely. i think she could become a problem. i have no advice just support for you. you need a good dog that barks and is concerned about farm goings on. since hubby is gone a lot, bubba is a comfort for you i would think.i know mt dogs would never let anyone on the place at night without them barking. this is a tough call for you. i hope it works out. how about a kennel run for when folks are there? still does not stop kitten killings. i want to add when we get a new animal here i have to spend time helping all know we are adding this animal to the pack. this helps some. we all sniff the new critters and walk with them. i then correct the dogs if they show wrong interest. just a thought from a learn as i go girl. happy days sherrye

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1badmamawolf
True Blue Farmgirl

2199 Posts

Teresa
"Bent Fence Farms" Ca
USA
2199 Posts

Posted - Jun 22 2010 :  10:04:36 AM  Show Profile
Tell me if I'm wrong, but....don't I remember that you were telling your dogs to "GET THE KITTY" awhile back, well guess what...
Now that the dog has killed, it is next to impossible to break that habit, keeping him kenneled for the rest of his life or euthanize him to prevent this from getting so much worse. I am sorry for the kitten, and I am sorry for your dog, and no its not the breed...

"Treat the earth well, it was not given to you by your parents, it was loaned to you by your children"
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kristin sherrill
True Blue Farmgirl

11303 Posts

kristin
chickamauga ga
USA
11303 Posts

Posted - Jun 22 2010 :  12:43:13 PM  Show Profile
Teresa, I did try to get him to run off a few old tom cats that would come to eat all the cat food and fight my male cats. They were getting into everything. I know that was not a good thing to do but I didn't think it would make him a cat killer. He did just about kill the orange cat though. So I guess I have done this to him. If I had even thought he would get ahold of the kitten I would have brought the poor thing inside. I just didn't think about it. So now I will have to figure out what to do. I just hope I haven't ruined him.

Kris

Happiness is simple.
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1badmamawolf
True Blue Farmgirl

2199 Posts

Teresa
"Bent Fence Farms" Ca
USA
2199 Posts

Posted - Jun 22 2010 :  2:00:54 PM  Show Profile
Kristin, first off you are gonna need a good dog trainer who has experience in this problem, he needs to be fully obediance trained, on and off leash, he needs to be taught the command "LEAVE IT", and you are not going to be able to leave him loose when you are not with him at all times. Dogs have predatory natures, so once they start killing, it is very hard, if not impossible to stop, especialy when its a small animal that will run, that really kicks in the prey drive. Never, ever teach an animal to chase another animal for fun, cause fun turns to killing, and dogs end up shot all the time in farming/ranching areas because of killing, and God forbid a child is with the dog or other animal that the killer dog is after, dogs can also become frenzy killers, they in other words go alittle crazy,cause they are not killing for food, they are killing for sport. Good luck to you and your dog, and I hope you can fix this, if not, I hope you do the right thing.

"Treat the earth well, it was not given to you by your parents, it was loaned to you by your children"
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maggie14
True Blue Farmgirl

6784 Posts

Hannah
Washington
USA
6784 Posts

Posted - Jun 22 2010 :  5:09:20 PM  Show Profile  Send maggie14 a Yahoo! Message
Poor kitty!!
Hugs,
Channah

Farmgirl sister #1219


Just a small town country girl trying to live her dreams. :)
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southerncrossgirl
True Blue Farmgirl

631 Posts

Gena
Harmony NC
USA
631 Posts

Posted - Jun 23 2010 :  05:49:15 AM  Show Profile
Kris, We had a yellow lab years ago. She had the same aggressive behavior. I am not saying ALL yellow labs are aggressive, but ours was to the point we had her put down. She started out just being overly protective of our family. Then it went to where our friends and the UPS guy wouldn't want to come to our house. I knew she would bite if given the chance. We finally decided we should put her down. It was very difficult, especially for my hubby.
I hope things turn out good for you and Bubba

"A Dream Is A Wish Your Heart Makes"==Cinderella
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kristin sherrill
True Blue Farmgirl

11303 Posts

kristin
chickamauga ga
USA
11303 Posts

Posted - Jun 23 2010 :  08:36:36 AM  Show Profile
Gena, I do think the yellow labs are more aggresive than the black and chocolate for sure. I have had 2 so far and Bubba is turning out to be like Cooper. Although I did pick up a stray older black lab once and had him awhile. My neighbor was coming over and she was about 80 something then and had a trach. She reached IN to open the gate and that dog latched down on her hand. I was in the dining room and saw it happen. She couldn't scream at all. It was all like slow motion. I finally got out there and got him off her. Got her in the car and to the ER. She had to have stitches. Of course we took care of all the expense. I have never picked up a stray since then.

I guess I just don't have very good luck with big dogs. They get too attached to us and protective. We have had Sophie and Zoe since they were 6 weeks old and they will be 13 July 7th. They are Rat Terriers. I don't think I will get another dog when these guys are gone. Although I have thought about a herding dog. But that's just a thought.

Kris

Happiness is simple.
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1badmamawolf
True Blue Farmgirl

2199 Posts

Teresa
"Bent Fence Farms" Ca
USA
2199 Posts

Posted - Jun 23 2010 :  09:36:21 AM  Show Profile
Just so you know, the color of the lab has nothing to do with them being aggression/non-aggression, its only a color. Bad breeding, in-breeding, not socialized properly, health issues, abuse, not neutered/spayed, these are the things that cause bad behavior.

"Treat the earth well, it was not given to you by your parents, it was loaned to you by your children"
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