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Annab
True Blue Farmgirl

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Anna
Seagrove NC
USA
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Posted - Apr 07 2011 :  03:52:18 AM  Show Profile
Heather...you make me laugh!! I always have to remember to take it easy. Those fiber bars really work, but I have to consume those in small amounts rather than pound the entire bar in one sitting.

It's tough when you work around people all the time and 1. don't want to pass gas all the time and 2. need a bathroom when your gut decides to rebel all of a sudden
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MagnoliaWhisper
True Blue Farmgirl

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Heather
Haysville Kansas
USA
2817 Posts

Posted - Apr 07 2011 :  05:44:41 AM  Show Profile
lol Anna. Now that I am used to it I can eat very large amounts of fiber. The more fiber you eat the better really. As fiber is like a toothbrush to the liver. It pushes every thing through.

I really like the book From Here To Phytopia. It's a cookbook from a RN who had a very large family history of cancer, and started doing research. She believes in eating meat, and the like but also incorporating as much veggies, fruits and grains as you can too. She has some very interesting recipes. I loved her pumpkin seed quesadillas and her fire and ice ice cream. I went to a cooking class of her's at a local hospital years ago and every thing we made and ate was very good, even though they sounded disgusting! lol


http://www.heathersprairie.blogspot.com
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kristin sherrill
True Blue Farmgirl

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kristin
chickamauga ga
USA
11303 Posts

Posted - Apr 07 2011 :  06:01:00 AM  Show Profile
Heather, I just googled diverticulosis and got all kinds of good info. As far as "moving", I am several times a day already and way before the procedure. that's why I couldn't understand why he was telling me to eat more fiber. Of course, we didn't talk about that ourselves. I think this happened because of the high pretien 2 weeks. I will never do that again. It does not agree with me. In one of the articles I read it said to sub beans for meat. I do notice when I eat meat that it hurts at first. Especially fried. So I had put on a big pot of pinto beans yesterday morning with just Safflower oil and some salt. I usually put fat back or bacon in them. So a cup a day is quite a bit of fiber. And this bread is really good. I have been making this bread for about 12 years now.

Anna, when my goats are in milk I make my own kefir. I make a smoothie every day and grind up flax to add to it. That's how I would get my fruit, as I really am not a fruit eater. I love my smooties and miss them. I could buy kefir but it's so expensive. I have to limit myself to about once a month now. But goats are ready to pop in a few weeks. So we will be in good fresh goat milk soon! I am so ready. But I am going to start adding ground flax to the bread also. And some seeds and nuts too.

Have y'all read Nourishing Traditions? And Wild Fermentation? They are both really good books about fermenting and lactic acid which every gut needs. I love these books. They are both on the counter now. I just made some beet kvass with some whey. Can't wait to eat it.

Kris

Happiness is simple.
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MagnoliaWhisper
True Blue Farmgirl

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Heather
Haysville Kansas
USA
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Posted - Apr 07 2011 :  11:56:42 AM  Show Profile
I always went to the bathroom enough times a day as well, never experienced constipation much either. But, I can tell you I am so much healthier after raising my fiber. I still have never read that 16 gms was enough for a grown up before. That's what I have seen for a child though (10 to 16 gms). I've always read though 25-35 mostly, but have seen a few say as few as 25-30.

I haven't read those two yet. But, I did read the Liver cleanse book and it was really good.

I know that the low carb diet is not really good for any one. It's really bad on the liver. My dr has strongly advised against it. It is bad for the liver, and especially the kidneys. It can literally make your kidneys shut down. It almost did mine! I am a diabetic and every one kept saying low carb so I tried it and I got kidney disease as a result! I started eating carbs, my blood sugar went down and I began to get better. BTW, I went to a tv show recording where they were interviewing a dr who touted low carb for diabetics, and diabetics in the audience were standing up saying they still had high blood sugar the dr said it was because your body will make it when you don't eat carbs. HOWEVER that never was aired! The TV show wanted to tout the low carb diet and cut all that out of the aired episode!


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kristin sherrill
True Blue Farmgirl

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kristin
chickamauga ga
USA
11303 Posts

Posted - Apr 07 2011 :  1:56:31 PM  Show Profile
Ooopps. I just went back and it was 21 grams for females 50 and over. Sorry. And yep, I cannot do the high protien-low carb thing. That's just not right. You have to have carbs. I lost 15 pounds in 2 weeks. That works. But it sure screwed me up for awhile. So no more for me. I know what my body needs. I really don't trust doctors or nutritionists. They go by what they learned in med schools. When my friend found out she had diabetes I went with her to a class on nutrition. I was amazed at what they were telling these people. They could have white bread and white rice and nothing about whole grains and staying away from white processed stuff. We both didn't go back. It's just a shame what they are telling people. And people believe them. Like when I went to my doctor last Oct and she said my BP was a little high and she thought I might need to go on meds for it, I said NO way. I asked what else I could do and she told me. She is partially holistic and I like that about her. But I guess she has to first tell her patients about the drugs. And most people will just go along with it. I am not. When I had my colonoscopy my BP was down about 30 points or whatever it is. So I know what I am doing is working. Anyway, there is always an alternative.

Kris

Happiness is simple.
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MagnoliaWhisper
True Blue Farmgirl

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Heather
Haysville Kansas
USA
2817 Posts

Posted - Apr 07 2011 :  6:26:49 PM  Show Profile
Yeah I have been to good and bad nutritionists. I went to one really really good one that was free at the mall. And that doctor was very cutting edge and I learned a lot from him. Then when I was pg with dd1 my insurance required me to go to a class (cause I'm a type one diabetic) so I went and every thing the lady said was insane! For instance she said that we shouldn't eat tortillas and then proceeded to pick up a bag of tortillas that were about 20 inches across, and made from what flour. This was a class of mainly latina women....probably a main source of bread is tortillas for them. MOST mexicans/latinas do NOT eat 20 inch tortillas for one thing, most eat small about 6 inch ones they are easier to make and cook, etc. I spoke up and said that corn tortillas are whole grain and are not that high in carbs! And also they could eat whole wheat ones, and I even named some name brands of whole wheat ones that are low carb and high fiber. She was irritated at me, BUT I just thought it wasn't going to work to tell people whose main diet is one food that they can't have it, when in fact they could just choose the better option of the same food. Then she held up cottage cheese and said it was high carb too! I said cottage cheese is NOT high carb, I eat it every morning for breakfast, she then reads the label on her container of cottage cheese which was high. I then said, isn't it high cause you bought the kind with fruit goo!? In NYC they sell cottage cheese with pineapple or peach fruit goo added (no actual fruit, it's high fruitose corn syrup and flavoring!). she said no all cottage cheese was high like that. This was a three part class, so the next class I brought in my empty container of fruit goo-less cottage cheese, that was ONLY cottage cheese, no fruit goo! And it was only 4 carbs (in the class they said anything below 5 was considered ok to eat!). She was shocked, yet she was the teacher? UHG! Very irritating cause most the women in the class had just been diagnosed with diabetes while pregnant and was totally confused! And being told very wrong things! CRAZY.

But, yes we all need carbs. The reason your body loses with out carbs is you are actually not feeding your fat cells when you don't eat carbs, and then you are literally starving your body, and you go into keytosis. I have a head ache and am tired right now, but it's pretty scientific, that pretty much it's not good for any one's body! Plus I don't know about you but have you ever seen people's skin who don't eat carbs and lost a bunch of weight-always pimply and not good looking at all! A person who eats fruits, veggies, and whole grains along with a good amount of water usually their skin looks a lot better!


http://www.heathersprairie.blogspot.com
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Annab
True Blue Farmgirl

2900 Posts

Anna
Seagrove NC
USA
2900 Posts

Posted - Apr 08 2011 :  06:39:33 AM  Show Profile
I tried the low carb thing too for a time. It really worked , but was a hard discipline for someone who absoutly loves pasta. Portion sizes have been significantly reduced though.

And since being diagnosed with RA, my DH has stepped up his nutrition awareness. Or actually now, is paying more attention to what he eats.

He has cooked our meals every night this week.

I'm gonna order the Phytopia cook book. I'm sure he'll find it very useful, so thank you!



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MagnoliaWhisper
True Blue Farmgirl

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Heather
Haysville Kansas
USA
2817 Posts

Posted - Apr 08 2011 :  09:42:39 AM  Show Profile
Welcome Anna. You may want to get it at the library first, it doesn't have a whole lot of recipes, but what it has are really yummy. However, very unconventional, so I would check it out at the library first to see if your family likes it.


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